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misk@sopuli.xyz to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 9 months ago

France runs fusion reactor for record 22 minutes

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France runs fusion reactor for record 22 minutes

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France has upped the ante in the quest for fusion power by maintaining a plasma reaction for over 22 minutes – a new record. The milestone was reached on February 12 at the Commissariat à l'énergie atomique et aux énergies alternatives (CEA) WEST Tokamak reactor.
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    1,337 seconds

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      Le et

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      Flexing

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        Flexing is not good for the containment

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          No, but some guy proved that we could use that to our advantage. If you don’t use the magnetic constrictors to compensate for the heat from the fusion expanding the vessel, you can have it enter fusion and leave fusion several times a second. Wrap the thing in copper wire coils, and you have now got your vessel in a state of flux, and producing enough power to blackout your local grid, and get lots of fines from the feds in less than 5 seconds of runtime. He obviously didn’t continue working on that particular method of generating power with a Tokomak

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      Rumor is next they are trying for 11.6858˙3 hours

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    Meanwhile in America we’re trying to make macdonalds cheaper by bundling an extra sandwich to go along with a value meal…

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      That’s called McFusion

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        And it only takes 22 seconds to consume.

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          And only 12 seconds to regret.

          • meco03211@lemmy.world
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            Which means you are still consuming the burger for 10 seconds fully regretting your decision.

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              110% commitment to the burger and the regret. USA! USA!

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          And keeps you sated for another 22 seconds.

          Then you want seconds.

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    A headline without calling it an “Artificial Sun”?!

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      The power of the sun in the palm of my hand.

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        @Toribor @notsoshaihulud with great power comes great responsibility

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        Don’t worry, it will stabilize

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      The amusing thing is that the sun is actually quite a shit fusion reactor. It’s power per unit volume is tiny. It just makes it up in sheer volume. A solar level fusion reactor would be almost completely useless to us. Instead we need to go far beyond the sun’s output to just be viable.

      It’s like describing one of the mega mining dumper trucks as an “artificial mule”.

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        I think this energy density math really depends on whether only the core or the whole surface area is taken into consideration.

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          Even the core only has an output of 200-300W/m^3.

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      Or a “star in a bottle”

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        A bulb in a bong

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    Why don’t we use “shatters world record” like the pro-China articles where they did this for 16 minutes?

    I know why.

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      Because that one was over double the length of the record before it and this one is closer to a 35% increase.

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      They’ll never tell.

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      Is it because of the Uyghurs?

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    Oh shit. Things are heating up in the fusion race.

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      IIRC it was expected because previous record from China was essentially a trial for this one. It all happens under ITER project so it’s not that much of a race.

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      Good. The only thing that was quite good about the cold war was the competition.

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    Mr. Fusion now 1 step closer… 10 years late, but still!

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      Only ten more years, and we’ll have it!

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        …you said 10 more years 50 years ago

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          In just 10 more years, it’ll only be 40 more years!

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        So, some as graphene.

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          We’re using graphene! Almost entirely for it’s electrical properties true, but we’re using graphene doped batteries in consumer electronics currently. We also use fusion and ITER research for a whole lot more than just power generation - plasma dynamics, just one tiny subfield concerned with physics, has applications in everything from radio transmission beam forming techniques to satellite engines to magnetodynamic modeling to the EMI shielding on your vacuum cleaner.

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            I would like to subscribe for more graphene facts.

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    Maybe if it runs longer, we all get to jump to a better timeline. 😅

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      Or the world blows up and it’s all over. I guess what I’m saying is, no downside, fire it up and let’s see what happens.

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    Has DOGE cut funding to ITER yet?

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      They sacked everybody. Now they are trying to get them back.

      /s

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        But only the white middle aged men with regular male names and above average height.

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          What about my racist and misogynist views I try to hide underneath my crazed and incompetent rantings about DEI? Is there room for someone like me?

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    This is freaking awesome. Only a few years ago it was exciting to see a fusion reaction last a fraction of a second.

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      It is awesome. Whichever country develops it first will be remembered as the next ‘moon landing’ event forever.

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        So a big event without any practical relevance because there is more cheaper, reliable and safer alternatives available?

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    The Power of the Sun - Spider Man 2

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      The power of the sun in the palm of my hand

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        How big are your hands???

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          It’s not the size the matters, it’s the amount of hands that matters.

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    Amazing news!

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    Well, I’m still skeptical, but I have far more trust in France’s reporting than Chinese claims.

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      They’re part of the same global research effort.

      Nice jingoism tho

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        This is great if so, is it so?

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          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

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            Oh, good old ITER. There where news from records from China, anyone know if this is related to ITER-project somehow and is it multinational project?

            edit. probably this: https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/nuclear-energy/chinas-artificial-sun-shatters-nuclear-fusion-record-by-generating-steady-loop-of-plasma-for-1-000-seconds

            Yup it is related to ITER -project, so this is a nice thing going on in international scene apparently

            SUM: it is so

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      So just blatant Sinophobia.

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        Yeah, just like all that anti-white sentiment towards the US because we elected a president who almost passes for off-white.

        Though I suppose there could be other reasons if we dig deep enough.

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    How ks the drill baby drill crowd going to compete against mini stars in a can?

    Lmao. Fucking oil losers

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      Plastic Straws. Plastic cups. Wrapping indvidual food items in plastic and then putting them in a larger plastic bag which you carry home in an even larger plastic bag.

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        The food has been impregnated with microplastics as well. This machine runs on sugar, but someone put oil in the tank. :-/

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          The ironic thing is the human body runs on fat and a huge portion of our illness stems from the insane amount of sugar we consume.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cST99piL71E&list=PLE8LmUoWei5Qp5Nz7C4FMNs6hGNx7M3Jg&index=2

          Summary: In 1984 our group published the first modern study of the effects of adapting to a low carbohydrate high fat diets on athletic performance. I have spent the next 31 years expanding on this research. In my presentation I will present the results of that research program and conclude with our exciting new evidence for the role of low carbohydrate diets and ketosis in the prevention of whole body inflammation in athletes training daily at very high loads. I will also present evidence to show that elite ultra-endurance athletes have an unexpectedly high capacity to oxidize fat during exercise and so potentially to run at fast paces for prolonged periods without the need to ingest exogenous fuels.

          The 1928 Bellevue Stefansson Experiment McClellan W, et al. JBC 87:651,1930 http://www.jbc.org/content/87/3/651.f… Keto-adaptation Demonstrated Vermont Study Phinney et al JCI 66:1152, 1980

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            Thanks for sharing. As a frequent cyclist who loves cheese and doesn’t drink soda or eat many sweats, I feel like this will be an interesting read.

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    1,337 seconds? That… that number used to mean something, but now i can’t recall what…

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      I still use 1337 sometimes, for joke names like 1337h4xX0r, or I use 1337 where others would use 42 or 69, but it’s always that nobody gets it. How could past internet culture vanish like that?

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    Doesn’t sound that impressive when Wendelstein 7-X achieved 17 minutes of plasma in 2021.

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      Yes but 22 minutes is longer than 17 minutes

      Think of it like a pizza oven

      How well done is your pizza?

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        at temperatures that exceed the surface of the sun, there’s only one setting.

        carbonized.

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      I can’t find a reference to that but China did 17 minutes in January this year. I think you’re confusing the announcement that they increased power by 17x while maintaining plasma.

      This test was 20 minutes at a higher power setting without being incredibly destructive, that’s their milestone.

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