• @[email protected]
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    Crazy that anti-vax has even a fig leaf of personal liberty as a defense. Yes, you do have the right to make your own choices and you can be a negligent parent in 1000 different ways.

    But this isn’t even close to a personal freedom issue. You being a dumb piece of shit is a direct threat to the rest of society. YOU don’t get to make the personal choice to kill MY child.

    It should be simple for these serious diseases: unless you have a certified medical issue preventing it, you have to get the shot. Fuck any objection (personal, religious, whatever…). If there’s some negative side effect or a bad vaccine batch, you get generously compensated for our collective societal fault in harming you.

    Strap them down and jab them, let them bitch and moan about everyone’s children being alive and healthy later.

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      Either that or, more gently, ban them from public spaces if they haven’t had the vaccine – schools, public administrations, grocery stores, malls, churches…

      • Australis13
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        This is the approach I would suggest. I do not agree with forcing people to take vaccines, but if they want to be part of society then this is a reasonable requirement. It’s simply an extension of the duty of care principle we already have for healthcare environments where vaccination and other measures are required for people to work in.

  • Australis13
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    The most generous way I can look at this is to say she’s in denial. Five unvaccinated children with one dead. Apparently a 20% fatality rate (in her family) is not enough of a reason to get the vaccine.

    • @[email protected]
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      01 month ago

      The most generous way I can look at this is she’s a danger to her children, and they should be removed from her. Rejecting vaccines should not be a choice, just like choosing to starving your children should not be a choice.

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        If she got bit by a rabid dog, she’d get the vaccine in a heartbeat. Anti-vaxxers are only anti-vaxxers out of pure spite for science and the government. That’s literally it. Willfull ignorance and contradicting personalities in defiance of the status quo. If the disease has a low risk of them or their loved ones dying, they’ll take the risk of not taking the vaccine, because they suck at math and it can’t possibly happen to them and their family.

        If the risk of death is 100% (like in rabies), they’ll take the vaccine, because they know deep down they are fking wrong about vaccines and they don’t want the 100% chance of death.

        Btw, If you ever debate with an anti-vaxxer irl, asking them if they’d take the rabies vaccine once bit by a rabid animal does fuck up their stupid logic quite effectively.

  • @[email protected]
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    There was another story the other day of a father whose unvaccinated daughter died of measles, and he said he was still glad she didn’t get the vaccine because he didn’t trust what’s in it to be safe. These people’s minds are not functioning rationally.

      • @[email protected]
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        01 month ago

        Measles is insanely infectious. People have no clue the fire they’re inviting into our lives. Even vaccinated people are at risk.

        • @[email protected]
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          Yes, so often we see people online saying “Ha ha, let the morons get COVID/measles/bird flu/etc!” They don’t stop to think about the risk to everyone else, particularly vulnerable people some of whom can’t get vaccinated and rely on herd immunity. In all these years still that lesson doesn’t seem to have been learned. I suspect the people saying this are healthy young people who haven’t really considered how different from theirs some people’s lives are.

  • @[email protected]
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    01 month ago

    The denial after the fact is a necessary coping mechanism. Otherwise, they will suffer from the guilt of killing their child.

    Which they absolutely did.

  • wildncrazyguy138
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    Woman who doesn’t use conventional birth control is shocked to discover this one weird trick.

    • celeste
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      Gotta keep having kids if you’re going to let them die like this or disown them when they turn out wrong. Arrows for the quiver of god, or whatever. That poor child deserved to live a full life.

    • @[email protected]
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      01 month ago

      Whatever you may think of the parents for this, I don’t suspect the other children would be much better off in the foster care system.

      • Bob Robertson IX
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        But there’s a chance the foster family would at least get them their vaccinations.