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    Remember a guy telling it is more efficient to paint over sold Tesla to discourage buyers. But we have to admit news of burning Tesla is pretty discouraging too.

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      Seems like the thought is: if you paint a Tesla you prevent the sale of that one Tesla, but if you burn one, the entire populace has second thoughts about buying any Tesla.

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      We need anonymous to dismantle Twitter and plummet it all so it can be amongst all the other apps that went to the grave.

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    When Trump said he’d prosecute tesla vandals “with the full force of the law” it really highlights the unequal enforcement in our system. Its like saying “I’m going to turn on law enforcement right now just for this issue”. He clearly does not believe in laws or law enforcement, or else he’d see how absurd a statement it was.

    This and their dismantling of the EPA, IRS, FBI, and justice system shows that republicans are soft on crime, soft on wealthy tax evaders, soft on the legal system in general, and disrespectful of law enforcement, except insomuch as they can be used as personal storm troopers for issues they care about-- usually to promote racism and class stomping of the poors.

    Republicans are soft on America, but rock hard for Russia. I hope republican voters are proud.

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      I hope republican voters are proud.

      You damn right they’re proud! As long as the powerful white man is hurting the right people to keep them in their place they’ll vote republican forever.

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      How does the saying go? The core principle of conservatism is there are people the law binds but does not protect, and people the law protects but does not bind?

      Or, another similar insight: liberals judge actions as good or bad and judge people by their actions. Conservatives judge people as good or bad and judge actions by the person performing them.

      What Trump realized is he doesn’t have to even pretend to enforce the laws objectively. Conservative Americans want selective enforcement. They want the government to go after liberals and leftists and minorities with the full voice of the law. They want law enforcement to ignore conservative crimes and hunt down liberal crimes, because conservatives are good people so their mistakes can be forgiven, but liberals are bad people so they must be guilty of something.

      And that’s where Biden fucked up. He had the FBI go after Trump relentlessly for four years in the belief that, if he could find enough bad actions Trump did, he could discourage conservatives from supporting him in 2024. What he didn’t realize is, Trump’s supporters would never condemn any crimes Trump committed, because they believe Trump is a good person and therefore what he does isn’t a crime.

      All Biden did was give Trump an excuse to send his FBI after his political enemies too. And Trump and his supporters are happy to use that power far more widely than Biden did.

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    It’s believed to be the largest vandalism in Canada against vehicles from the U.S.-based car company.

    This strikes me as an odd qualifier.

    Have there been larger vandalism incidents in Canada against vehicles from companies based in countries outsides the states?

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      Not larger no, that’s what they are saying… I get you though but no… Had there been similar or close to this? Dunno … This language is just coming from the US admin to make it seem like an attack the us. Rather than on Elon musk himself and his values and actions, which it is.

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      Maybe your question should have been ‘have there been ANY’ valdalism incidents… Before now

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    Not all that surprising that Canadians are especially pissed off. Didn’t he say Canada isn’t a real country and then he deleted the Tweet afterwards? Yes he did…

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        The entire point of the “blame Canada” joke is that it’s making fun of people who tried to blame their own problems on something that had nothing to do with the underlying cause for those problems.

        In the song Kenny’s parents literally say “should we blame the matches, or should we blame the fire, or the doctors who allowed him to expire? no blame Canada!”

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          The final verse really drives the nail home just in case anyone in the audience somehow didn’t get it:

          Blame Canada
          Shame on Canada
          For the smut we must stop, the trash we must smash
          The laughter and fun must all be undone
          We must blame them and cause a fuss
          Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

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      Wow. He actually deleted a Tweet? He usually stands by all the stupid shit he’s said, proudly at that.

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      Of course he would have deleted it, so nice capture! And thanks for sharing. What a loser manchild -Elon

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      The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”

      Probably about the same as any other car.

      Edit:

      a 2015 Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) study found that the Tesla Model S had higher claim frequencies, severities and overall losses than comparable large luxury cars. The higher claim severity was thought to be attributed to the car’s battery replacement cost — a whopping $16,000.

      So teslas insurance has always been more expensive, and this sure isn’t going to help.

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        I’d imagine that they’ll be more expensive to insure in the future if they are getting targeted en masse.

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    Demonstrates to the American electorate that democrats celebrate and encourage criminal behavior. How does this help you win elections? Do you think an independent looks at this situation and thinks “Yes these are the people I want to be in charge.” So shortsighted and childish.

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      You sound like a conservative plant lamenting the so-called peaceful liberals, you’ve been sold a lie

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        Why would i be a conservative plant? I think America needs two viable political parties and presently one party cannot compete. Their interpretation of reality is questionable making them repulsive to normal people, which is why they won’t vote for you.

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          Why are you trying to frame it as a Democrat versus Republican thing both sides can have equal amounts of grievances with the shit ass state ofthe fucking presidency right now

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            It is obviously liberal burning down charging stations, spray painting swastikas, and throwing molotov cocktails. With Democrat politicians celebrating and encouraging the behavior. Im not framing it’s reality.

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      I know right? Imagine stirring everyone up into a frenzy and encouraging them to do something illegal in the name of politics. Like storming the capitol. Moron.

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      As opposed to republicans that elected a 34 count felon, court-certified rapist, pedophile president? Party of law and order, am I right? Be glad that it’s shitty, overpriced EVs they’re targeting.

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        There is a different view to your statement. We live in a democracy and we had an election where the citizens chose a felon, Nazi, dictator over your side. They would rather have a court certified rapist in charge than you. Just think about that and understand how repulsive and out of touch you have to be for that to happen. This effort to destroy Tesla is only hurting your cause. It is counterproductive, childish, and small. It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.

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          Republicans won because of voter suppression and purging. What you’re saying is “Pants on fire” rewriting of history. Also Jan6ers were much, much more violent so I think Democrats are simply trying out their fascism strategy.

          Vandalizing Teslas is legal, the precedent was set when Jan6ers were pardoned. So your morality argument is wrong too.

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            If you need to tell yourself that “they cheated” then you are doing exactly what Republicans did in 2020 making you just like them. Yes the Jan6ers were pardoned but most people do not support it and believe those people should be in prison. Just like the people fire bombing tesla dealerships and charging stations should be in prison.

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              A strawman, Republicans claimed election fraud (2 + 2 = 5), Democrats claimed voter suppression disproportionately affects them (2 + 2 = 4). What do you think 2 + 2 = ?

              You think that violent insurrection against our country by storming the capitol is the same as vandalizing a few cars? How long do you think the sentences should be for each crime? I’d say one is 100x the sentence of the other.

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                Firebombing car dealerships, charging stations, and violent attacks against people who drive Teslas isn’t “vandalization” . 90,000,000 eligible voters didnt vote by choice. They are vocal on why they didn’t vote and it’s not voter suppression. Keep lying to yourself if you want or just go read about the reasons. It’s not a secret.

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                  There are many reasons for an election win or loss. But the big one we care about in 2024 was widespread purging. It’s quasilegal, there’s evidence of it, it’s cheating, and it suppresses Democrat votes much more.

                  There were 7 billion people who didn’t immigrate into the US and thus didn’t vote, they were very clear as to why they didn’t come to America. That’s just as relevant as your 90 million, actually more because it’s 100x the people! Don’t get me started on extraterrestrials we didn’t find, there could be trillions. It was clear the reasons we didn’t fund SETI.

                  “Vandalizing isn’t vandalizing”. You made no argument here.

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          We live in a democracy

          Do you?

          It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.

          Assuming there is one

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            Yes the next election will be in 2026. This is why people question your ability to interpret reality.

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          It’s the nazi in the bar story. Gotta call them out and shut them down early, or else they take over the place like they do on reddit.

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    I’m not too concerned about the dealerships. They have insurance. But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed. That’s not Canadian.

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      I’ll use my fucking free speech to flip off teslas while I still fucking can. Until you physically stop me you will deal with it.

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        Flip them off all you’d like. That’s fine.

        When you start brake checking people just cause? I don’t think yer doing the cause any favours.

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          Flipping off people didn’t work, it got the left wing threats of being sent to an El Salvadorean prison. I don’t approve or disapprove of the Tesla vandals but you bet your ass it’s working. It’s sad that it works and I hate it.

          But here’s you with a Republican dick in your mouth: “Stop fighting guys, gargle”

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            This is a very typical ad hominem attack on someone’s political beliefs. Especially coming from someone who probably doesn’t think much farther past what they’re going to eat for the day, or how drunk they’re going to get on the weekend. I’m not going to insult you back because it’s very clear that yer a low information individual who’s more concerned with breaking stuff, rather than trying to repair and move on.

            Life long NDP voter btw. But I’m sure you’ll just scoff at this and continue to throw low IQ insults around.

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              I see, you’re in Canada. I’m an American. You don’t understand my fear. You only have to deal with tariffs, I mean that sucks but my government is literally turning fascist, you get to just buy Canadian and move on. You don’t and can’t know what that’s like… Don’t try unless you plan to sympathize.

              Well at least I’m glad you don’t understand my fear. If you did you’d be in our position.

              Also nice job not insulting me, I counted 3 but it’s ok I think you’re angry. I’m angry too. Don’t be angry at me though. Be angry at the bully, not the victim.

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          Nothing lost then, same status as dealership. Only slightly more inconvenienced since its their car but even then they get a rental from insurance company.

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      But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed.

      No. We need to make fascists afraid again. If you don’t want to be bothered for owning a Klankar, then stop owning a Klankar.

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        1. By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi. Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?

        2. Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.

        3. It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.

        Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.

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          By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi.

          Is Henry Ford, right now, at this moment, a Nazi?

          Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?

          Is 3M and Bayer today, at this moment, supporting Nazis?

          Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.

          Ok, we’re not talking about the past right now. We’re talking about the current situation. If they are left-leaning, as you imply, they understand the need to NOT display actively in use Nazi symbols and paraphernalia.

          It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.

          Then they can park it, cover it with a tarp, and use public transportation. Or, ride bike. Or, use rideshare.

          Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.

          No, it’s principled: You NEVER show support for nazis, regardless of how inconvenient it is for you.

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            So in other words, you’ll remain childish and reductive. That would have been much shorter than reading your drivel.

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              It’s far more childish to be unable to stick to principles. Children will punch another child for a cookie… adults know not to, and ones that punch people for cookies are held in contempt by society.

              Your stance would be the former: do whatever is easy.

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                The other commentator is right. Its easy to tell someone “just sell your car and walk” or whatever when you are not directly affected by the change you are asking someone else to make. Take a second and think of all the injustices in the world YOU are indirectly, involuntarily complicit in and what it might mean to be targeted for that reason. It is for this we offer charity to others, and therein is a clear line between wearing a nazi pin as a symbol and driving a Tesla, literally an appliance.

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        afraid of what? These people are going to get caught and made examples of and honestly most of the world are not big fans of assaulting other people by proxy. Like I’m not okay going to break the windows in your acura because I think you bought a vehicle where the CEO turned asshole after the fact.

        This was funny for a minute. But continuing to do it looks like we’re just a bunch of stupid childish cunts.

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          Most of the world is raping and pillaging lol most people are blank slates that do what they are told.

          Look at MAGA for proof and all the proof from other countries that are fucking MAGA, too.

          Look at the religions we made to try to put the fear of God into people to stop killing each other.

          Come the fuck on.

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          afraid of what?

          Afraid of being associated with a fascist.

          This was funny for a minute.

          It was never funny, it was, and is, just great to see.

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        To be fair, one of my neighbors bought one years before he knew about this, I don’t believe he had any idea. I don’t necessarily think he should have his car burned.

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          This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right. They have no social intelligence. They’re out for blind rage blood. On the left and the right these people have that bipolar energy and rise to the top becoming our new voices of reason.

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            This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right

            There are people who support a fascist, and those who oppose them, and those just waiting to see who wins.

            Which side are you on?

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              This is as narrow an understanding of things as any Republican which is my point. But can’t call that out right that would make me a centrist even though I’m not. Can’t be critical or you’re labeled a “them”

              There are flowers that smell pretty and there’s flowers that look pretty and there are those that aren’t really flowers but trees. Which ones do you like?

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                So, are you opposed to fascism, for it, or just waiting for the winner?

                Or, what’s your other option here? I fail to see any other at this time.

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                  I don’t really think in terms of fascism. It doesn’t seem like an accurate way to think here

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        So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?

        Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just go sell their vehicle that they are more than likely underwater on with the loan and can’t just pivot.

        Nuance my friend.

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          Depends on the model. People are mostly attacking cybertrucks in the wild.

          If it’s cybertruck, the owner knew, or chose not to know.

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            Must be rough bring a CT owner. First, your vehicle depreciates 50-100k, then it starts falling apart, and now everyone hates you for it.

            Still don’t feel bad for them though.

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          So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?

          Why are they still driving them, then?

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            Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.

            Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.

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              Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.

              So, sell it, get a different one. Many companies make EVs now.

              Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.

              But they are willing to show undwindling support of a fascist fucking over everyone financially… No matter how evil the intention is.

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                I totally understand where yer coming from. And I hope that those who can decouple themselves from it, do so. But like hell I’m going to endorse harassing people without context. All that does is endorse extremism. Extreme acts can be condoned, but I sure hope you have a plan for afterwards. If not, you’ve just become what you are railing against.

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                  You have the context: they are still showing their support for a fascist state, and this is worthy of harassment, as a matter of community defense.

                  Would you defend a woman wearing her grandpa’s swastika pin, for any reason, or is that enough context, in that case?

                  We, as a society, are swinging back to making displays of fascism unacceptable. That’s all the needed context.

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          Go back to the times of Hitler, and imagine that you suddenly found out he owned the brand and proudly explained that those driving it represented his will.

          I’m sure you’d find a way to sell it then.

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          I bought mine 6 years ago. I’m going to get rid of it but had to change plans because my son’s car just died. I wouldn’t blame anyone that vandalized my car. It should be expected.

          Mine has been debadged for years but I just put BYD badges on it. I doubt too many people will know what that is but I hope someone gets a chuckle.

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            This mentality is frighteningly close to one that justifies vandalism on businesses because they use temporary foreign workers. I don’t condone the destruction of private property owned by the rank and file of life. It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm

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              It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm

              They are doing actual harm, by not being afraid of any association, regardless of how weak, to a fascist.

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                And neither are you in the grand scheme. However what you are condoning will just radicalize the message and have it not resonate with those who’s help we will need in the future if this collapse actually comes about

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            Here’s a thought… Pre-vandalize it.

            Get some white paint that won’t damage your car, and write “Fuck Musk”, or “Swasticar” so it looks like it’s been keyed into your paint. Maybe grab a quality “cracked window” decal and slap it on the glass. Finally, take your bumper covers off.

            Then when (or if) this shit cools off, you can just wash the car, peel the decal and re-attach your bumper covers.

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              And then park it front of a Tesla sales center?

              I have a friend that does EV conversions of RAM Promaster vans. I wouldn’t mind using my car to do a conversion and then build it out for a class b camper van.

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          Except they came out after it was pretty well known he was one. He’s been a known piece of shit for a while now.

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      Also, car dealerships are the backbone of local conservative party funding. They are the financial backbone of the fascist movement

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    It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.

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      It’s not about the cars. It’s about what a powerful billionaire is doing to people.

      Targeting the cars is just a way to discourage Telsa ownership, tank the stock, and give Musk less power and leverage. A lot of his power comes from his ability to borrow against Tesla.

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        For the past 100 years car dependency has been the sole reason for the destruction of the working class. Henry Ford the Nazi, combined with conspirators in the US government, bulldozed low income neighborhoods to build highways and create suburban utopias for rich white folk.

        Car dependency is a disease which needs to be cured.

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          Ok, but the point still remains. This vandalism isn’t about the cars. It’s about taking money out of a billionaire’s pocket. People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.

          It’s not about the cars, the cars and stores are just an accessible target. This is about Musk and DOGE.

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            People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.

            Hold my beer. *picks up rock

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    In the words of Duke Nukem, “Hail to the king baby”

    The king being us, the people, who outnumber the billionaires, the billionaires who can still bleed.

    And if it bleeds we can kill it.

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        Useful idiots don’t get a pass for what they’ve done.

        The man was a piece of shit before the first car rolled off. If you didn’t know it’s because you didn’t care.

        Quite frankly we need to start shaming people bad for the products they buy because money is support under capitalism. If you buy something you are supporting that company and all the evil they do.

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          The cars are fine, it’s the family and board that are dirty and rotten.

          You cannot seriously claim that all 100k Tesla employees are Nazis just by association. That’s ridiculous. It’s a car company.

          Hell, Henry Ford was a Nazi.

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          On the other hand, if you only pay for things that don’t support evil, you’ll starve in Capitalism.
          And that’s by design.

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    1 month ago

    Awe shucks. I could not stoop to vandalism and destruction of the shitty neo-Nazi BEVs. I would prefer the vehicles to be unsold and collect dust until Tesla enters bankruptcy. Tesla, himself, must have flipped in his grave several times.