The money THEOR PARENTS PAID INTO AND WORKED TOWARDS. They are literally entitled to it. It is their parent money!!!
thats the american way.
Something about bootstraps and extreme individualism because real red blood 'muricans something
So billionaires can take daddy’s money but not the poors? Got it.
Talking about Odious Lusting After Fortunes
Thanks for making it national news, major national media. Good work.
They’ve also cut PEPFAR. PEPFAR is a program which, among other things, provides antiretrovirals to people with HIV/AIDS in poorer countries. Approximately twenty million people, including half a million children will now start to slowly die without access to these drugs.
For comparison’s sake, Hitler killed 13.6 million people. History is very likely to end up remembering Trump as the single deadliest regime in history.
That’s some Heritage Foundation level of undercutting Hitler’s death toll.
This only ends one way, with nooses and guillotines. It is up to the people how quickly it ends.
I pulled up next to a guy the other day and the passenger looked like Elon at first glance. My first thought was if I could shoot him in the face and escape long enough to at least make a few phone calls. That’s how much this guy deserves to be deleted. I’d risk my life to end it all.
He learned from trump, steal from children
Elon Musk is ultra paranoid for a reason. He has 20 bodyguards on a normal day and also has a secret service detail. He is not an easy target.
Also apparently carrying his youngest kid around.
Yeah, he’s betting that literal assassins will value the life of his kid more than him
And that is the most contemptuous shit action of them all.
There’s good reason to be paranoid. 400 yards is a cake shot for even a mediocre sniper. Just about any gun store today sells top notch sniper rifles.
This is why Thomas Matthew Crooks failed. He relied on a bottom rung AR15 when he could have ditched it for even a simple hunting rifle with a scope. To be fair he was using iron sights. And was under a lot of stress from just being discovered by a cop (even though the secret service had seen him earlier) and Trump fidgety movements basically threw off the shot.
I need to mention, however that we should not idolize Thomas Crooks. He was not some hero. What he actually wanted to do was to go on a mass murder spree and he wanted to start it off by killing a politician. He didn’t care which. He targeted Trump for no other reason than he was the closest and most convenient at the time. If a local representative or the state senator or the city’s mayor was closer, he would gone after that politician. Trump being the target was a coincidence.
Do you have a source for that? I didn’t think they had anything conclusive about his motives. Haven’t looked into it for a while though.
Nah, this ends with America so bankrupt that states split up from the federation. Maybe, just maybe, the workers unions will be strong enough to claim one of these new countries, but most likely it ends with seperate kingdoms, each ruled by a different billionaire.
That is the goal, I think.
That is why i say everything else the Trump government is doing right now is just distraction.
Unfortunately many of their distractions are already global catastrophes by themselves.
Trump behaves more or less as you’d expect if you model him as a sock puppet with Elon Musk and Putin taking turns as the hand up his ass.
Yep. C’mon America. How long you gonna let these nazis fuck you?
Warning everyone that I could not find a source for this and this Twitter post isn’t any evidence in itself. So if you’re saying I told you so, then you’re just as susceptible as the people who believe $300m was being sent to 11yos without any explanation.
You think children are getting undeserved money from the government.
I think children are getting money from the government.
We are not the same. </meme>
Regardless of evidence provenance, children need to be our most sacred class of people, followed by the elderly and disabled. It shouldn’t even be a question about how and why we take care of them, we just fucking should.
Misinformation is real, so I see part of your point, but the people outraged at this are WILDLY different from the people outraged that kids might be getting money they don’t “deserve”. Can we not just be nice to each other? This isn’t actually a zero-sum game.
I found two sources for this info.
Who could see their Social Security benefits stopped?
Government Executive reports that the SSA memo proposes ceasing payments that are made to people without Social Security numbers. While people without an SSN are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits of their own, there are scenarios where they can accept benefits on behalf of an eligible person who does have an SSN as that person’s “representative payee.”
A link in that text goes to https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/03/ssa-weighs-axing-payments-170000-beneficiaries/403740/ and it gives an example:
That task could be arduous, as finding payees is already so difficult that at times the agency turns to institutional payees like child welfare agencies, said Romig. SSA staff also have to assess the suitability of payees.
“Say you’re a kid and you don’t have a payee for a while — they stop paying the benefit until they sort it out,” she said of the potential for interruptions to benefits.
It may be that the OP read that and extrapolated it to mean orphans would be cut off … which may or may not be true.
Those are for SSA, not SBA. They don’t explain why SBA would be brokering business loans with 11yos. There is likely a valid explanation here, but the media doesn’t need to get up in arms until more details are available.
DOGE looks to be what’s getting all up in arms here. If there’s suspicion of corruption, investigate, Don’t just cut it all off! This isn’t a car factory, it’s food and shelter, aka the economy!
Of course I think he knows this and is actually trying to bring about a recession so he can seize whatever power he can
I don’t see anything about SBA in the articles above.
There’s nothing unlawful or untwart about an 11yr old getting a business loan if they have a business, that’s just a motivated kid. If not investigate and then shut it down if it’s fraud, don’t just read the title and cut it based off that.
You clearly don’t know the basics of how an SBA loan works so I’m not sure why you are even making statements as if you’re an expert.
Also, I’m not giving an opinion on the legality of the situation. I’m stating the Twitter post is based on no provided evidence so everyone in this thread defending against another ridiculous statement with more ridiculous statements shows that both sides are equally willfully ignorant and susceptible to propaganda.
I’m on the side that thinks it’s likely a record keeping error because the names do not match the SSNs. Also, banks are the actual lenders behind SBAs and it’s highly unlikely that in one specific year, banks decided to loan out over $300m to over thousands of businesses with credit checks that did not match the name returned on an SSN with the name of the person being lent too.
That’s not a counterargument that’s a bad attempt to strawman. Similarly there are zero age restrictions on an SBA loan, none zero.
There’s no need to defend against either, they’re both legal.
Probably, that doesn’t change the fact that it wouldn’t be illegal even if the ages are correct.
The best part is how his efficiency improvements will cost the government half a trillion dollars 😆
It’ll result in Musk’s douchebag billionaire buddies not getting the extra tax scrutiny. It’s a feature not a bug.
Efficiently extracting tax dollars into private bank accounts.
How much does an orphaned 8 year old get a month from social security? I would assume that all goes directly to the orphanage or foster home?
What is he supposed to pay his own rent and not drop $2k on Paw Patrol.
Musk should get prison time for this. But instead he will bs rewarded from Republicans for saving money and when the rest of social security checks stop coming in, yet they keep taking the money from our pockets, where exactly will all that money go?
Trump and Musk about to rob us of our social security benefits and what you bet part of it ends up in Puntins pockets.
If I remember correctly, the money goes to a guardian for the benefit of the child.
20 years ago I knew someone who’s husband was on a motorcycle and was run over and killed by a commercial truck driver (I think he was falling sleep or something.) She was a stay-at-home mom of 4 kids at the time. In the end between the settlement and the social security, she was able to continue to stay home to raise the children and college wasn’t going to be a problem either.
I haven’t thought of that family in years. In typing that out, I’m realizing that the American dream is still alive and well! Kids just have to be ready to sacrifice one of their parents to get it.
But that kid wasn’t orphaned. And I’m guessing that kid wasn’t getting social security. It’s possible parts of the settlement went into some kind of trust fund which the child wouldn’t have access to until reaching a certain age, or however else it was structured.
Survivor children of social security beneficiaries do get social security, even if it’s just one parent. It’s not particularly common because you’d need to be young enough to qualify as a child, and your parent needs to be old enough to qualify for social security benefits, but some dudes have kids in their 50s and 60s.
Kids get survivor benefits through social security from each parent lost. My 8 year old son gets $900/mo. I’m sure it varies by… everything.
I have a pair of cousins twice removed whose father died, and their mom gets Social Security checks to help support them. Messed up part is the cousins live with my aunt (their great grandmother) because their mom and grandma are both too messed up to care for them, but if my aunt tried to get the SS money their mom would try to get the kids back (and neglect them) so she wouldn’t lose the check.
I don’t know about orphaned, but my guardians got $300/month in the 90s because my mom was on social security disability. And when I was still with my mom, I think she got $700/month on social security disability. That’s with me included?
Obviously this is different from what orphans would get, and 25+ years ago. But if Musk had stolen it from us then, our situation would’ve been even worse…and it wasn’t great to begin with. Even back then, with my mom having an incurable disability, she had to be careful of how much money extra she made from odd jobs lest they take it all away (people on disability aren’t allowed to save or have above X amount in income or the benefits will be revoked). And apartments in the area were $700/month, and we weren’t in section 8 housing so all of her benefits went to rent–and that was before utilities, food, etc.
From what I’ve heard, similar restrictions are in place now. Nobody’s getting a plush ride on benefits, ever, and it’s a struggle to even get on them to begin with. Even with things that are 100% disabling and incurable.
I’ve heard that before and it still baffles me. People on disability aid have to maintain poverty to or else be subjected to greater poverty. It sounds like an obvious joke from Futurama. Except it’s real and the joke is the system.
SSDI, the main disability insurance benefit from social security, is not means tested. People pulling in millions can get it too, as long as they’re disabled (and qualify from working long enough in social security paying jobs). Usually that means they’re too disabled to work, but might have income from their investments or other sources. SSDI isn’t means tested, but does look to your earned income to determine whether you qualify (after all, the disability payments are designed to offset the loss of earned income, but someone who does still earn doesn’t need that stream of income as much).
SSI is the other disability insurance benefit from social security, and is explicitly an anti-poverty program that is means tested. So you have to demonstrate a lack of income in order to qualify.
Note that you can collect both, with concurrent benefits, but the SSI means test looks to your SSDI income, that counts against you.
There are a lot of anti poverty programs with pretty abrupt cutoffs based on income, or earned income, or even wealth, but many of the disability based ones have less stringent means testing or no means testing at all.
Doesn’t have to be an orphan. My grandparents adopted me and I got $600/mo. from dad’s Social Security (80s money) until I graduated high school. He was a WWII vet, so I’m sure that played into it a bit.
When I was in college, I received no money for aid because my parents made too much. My friend, whose mother had abandoned him to be raised by his extremely wealthy grandmother, was still considered to be getting $0 of parental help, so he got tons of federal aid.
I worked full time through college; he didn’t. He loved to argue that free college would be “regressive” because rich kids wouldn’t have to pay for it.
That persons name?
Nicole, the fediverse chick.
I’m really interested to see any reputable articles confirming this. Google searches didn’t show anything, 1 press conference on Reddit, 1 instagram post
It’s stopping direct loans applications by people under 18, nothing about actual payments. When are dumb fucks going to learn Tweets aren’t sources?
I’m so glad the leftist plan to beat the right is be as completely critically illiterate as they are. Just cede the movement to the maniacs now because once the conspiracy theorists take root it’s a short stroll to leftist QAnon
I agree 100%. We need to move past believing things just because they got our world view.
Whatever gets shitlibs to help storm the Capitol, but in a based way
I’m also interested in verifying this. Unfortunately, the article you linked to references young people getting sba loans not social security payments. It then repeats old news about very old people getting social security benefits.
Yes that’s why I specified direct loans in my comment
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/how-jeff-bezos-made-peace-with-donald-trump/
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/24/g-s1-29665/la-times-editor-resigns-presidential-endorsement
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/22/nx-s1-5161480/trump-media-threats-abc-cbs-60-minutes-journalists
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/media/cbs-news-trump-60-minutes-legal-threat/index.html
You’re going to see a lot of news stories falling through the cracks in our modern Trump-friendly media landscape.
For those experiencing the same confusion as myself: those are not sources for the orphan/survivor benefits story, they’re possible reasons why the media might not be reporting the story.
Who knew musk is a pos…I knew…Elon musk and Donald Trump are destroying America’s image and it ability to be a world power
Is there a source for this, I’m genuinely interested in reading more about this but can’t find a source.
I can’t find much except for a weird indiatoday article and the original Xhit: https://nitter.space/elonmusk/status/1904030373899616736#m
I don’t understand the association he’s making between Social Security and the Small Business Administration. At first glance I don’t see any indication the SBA does anything with children outside of funding childcare centers?
It sounds like they check your credit for a small business loan, so they would presumably take your SSN and I guess check it against the database?
But then they check your credit anyway. It’s not like the Social Security database is the safeguard for an unsafe loan. We have
identity leakscredit agencies for that. If he had proof of children or ‘immortals’ actually getting these loans in any numbers he would show it. Why can’t a 17 year old run a company anyway? If 20 year olds can dismantle the government…If an elderly small business owner dies, and the company is still held by his estate… wouldn’t his loan still be attached to his SSN?
And if an underage orphan receives ownership of a small business through estate, would their SSN be attached to these loans, even if the company was operated by a third party regency?
Dudes just mashing buttons on a calculator like a toddler. He’s not checking math.
It’s a screenshot of a tweet, I don’t know what further proof you could want. Did you not see the blue checkmark? /s
Need to see a better source than a tweet that I can’t find.
I can’t find any sources or reporting on this. Not to say it’s not happening but can’t even find some dumb Musk tweet about this
