“Unprecedented”
Millennials were also the generation that got to watch the surface web turn into an abandoned mall.
Good times.
Early 2000s internet was so good. I don’t know that it’s possible to go back there. You needed it to be a little bit wild west, you needed to say “Hey, if I click this website, am I going to regret it?” But folks were generally real (except apparently the girls I talked to in AIM chat rooms, but hey, I survived).
18/f/cali is a mindset, not a statement of fact.
Agreed.
But I still debate whether or not unrestricted internet access as a older kid/teen was a good thing or not haha. I’m sure we’ve all clicked links we regretted or went to those sites (rotten, or other shock sites). If we didn’t see all that shit growing up, would we be different? I’m not sure, but would be interesting to see some research on this (there may be some already, I haven’t looked).
Anyways, I recently found a great website for lemon-themed recipes. It’s www.lemonparty.org, check it out!
Still better than being a young adult in the 1910’ or the 1940’, so far.
Physically, yes. But the psychological warfare possible with the internet really hasn’t been quantified.
I think part of the problem is disillusion. Millenials in the west grew up in a period where it looked like tech was going to benefit society, and climate change was going to be addressed, and ethical consumerism was somewhat meaningful, and social mobility would still exist. We are having to downgrade our expectations and it hurts.
Best part is, it’s not only US lol. I am from EU, one of countries that back in 2000 were…let’s say backwater (thanks USSR). I remember as a kid watching news about new tech, seeing the new, bold designs, getting hands on west tech, everyone talked how it gets better, ozone layer hole? BOOM, nobody cares cuz fixed, we can do anything!
And then I grew up and and, except for internet getting faster and more bland, nothing happened. I love e-bikes, or EV overall but…don’t take me wrong, it felt like this would be common by 2010. Games got so photorealistic that I turn to indie because if I wanted photorealsitic I’d go touch grass, I’d rather have…you know, the story and wordbuilding progress keeping up. The bold and rabid culture in the net shifted towards defeated and tired. Even news…once something that irked most politicians and was a thorn in the side of everyone for the joy of the public turned into some damned advertisement machine.
Signed, defeated and tired
Your point about the ozone layer response is very relevant to our expectations of solving climate change. I think replacing CFCs was just low hanging fruit, which I didn’t understand as a kid. I just assumed if we kept recycling and not consuming so much it would put us on track. So naive.
Yeah, I remember pretty much 1992 on really well, and they were prosperous, carefree years. Everything was good (save some snags, nothing is 100%). We even turned the corner into the millennium and things were just great. I go into high school and we’re just chugging along, the biggest problems we have are which cable internet provider to choose to download viruses on limewire.
Then, boom, 9/11. And the world just hasn’t seemed to have gotten its footing since then. And perhaps that was naivety and my 14-year-old perspective, but that seemed to be the turning point for me, where the unprecedented became precedented.
+1, with an addendum.
I had (and have) some crazy Evangelical family in the South. Climate denial, anti vax, Democrats burning in hell, unspeakable acts from their pastors they worship, the whole nine yards. Simplifying drama, I’d wince, then chuckle, and dismiss them as relics the US (and maybe Christianity?) would move past.
I’m not laughing anymore.
For sure, I think the patriot act was a turning point in trust of government in the US. It filtered though to our government in Australia during the Howard years. Similar to the US, around the GFC we had a hopeful change of government, but that hope for progressive values (Obama for you guys, Rudd for us) turned out to be misguided. I tend to think of those “centre left” governments as representing managed societal decline as opposed to the accelerated decline of the right wing parties.
More than half of millennials are >=37 years old now…hell, the oldest are in their mid forties now
I wonder how many of us have settled for being content with watching the world burn.
From my own experience, it’s mostly just the ones without kids that don’t give a shit and have gone apathetic.
That’s a fair point of view. From some meagre research that’s about 33% of millenials and GenZ’s.
Another fair point IMO, settling for something is not the same as being apathetic. It’s more a question about finding the best way of coping with an unacceptable situation.
I’ll be 36 this year and I still live like I did when I was a student. I’m too worried about getting used to nice things and have been for the past 20 years that I simply just don’t spend money on anything other than food and bills and people around me tell me I should spoil myself more and go on more vacations and blah blah blah and I just want to scream at them xD
My life goal is to stay out of debt. You don’t stay out of debt if you constantly fly around the world and buy expensive shit you don’t need and replace your phone every three years or whatever I see some people do.
The good thing about my lifestyle is that when the next economic crisis hits, I am used to live like a rat so I don’t have to dial back too much compared to some people who treat their bankaccount like a Yolo slot machine.
I sure do miss rotisserie chicken, though. That’s one luxury I sadly got used to but whatever. Not the hardest thing to give up tbh and once in awhile you do get lucky that they are on sale to a reasonable price.
Every three years? Lol.
Yes. I have known a few people who made a bit of fun of me for having kept the same phone for seven years and told me that they had had three or four phones within that time span and that I was silly for keeping the same phone for so long. What about the newest updates and cameras and gadgets or whatever they call it? Why would I put up with outdated tech? The phone I have right now is from 22 and it still works fine. I hope it will last me until 2032, longer if possible.
No, I get it. My phones should last at least five years and some of them even have longer uses after being my primary phones. For example, I still plan to use my Redmi Note 4 Pro (mido) as a Kodi entertainment center with postmarketOS, even after six years of heavy daily usage. Every time I buy a phone I try to make sure it’s officially supported by Lineage OS, but people in general just want the new thing. Honestly, the mobile phone industry doesn’t even change that fast anymore. A 3-yo phone is basically as good as the new shiny thing.
Chicken thighs or quarters are good for moist, flavorful chicken
Source: fellow rat
Oh for real. We sometimes buy a very cheap and shitty red wine and soak chicken thighs in it and cook them with spices and veggies. Also chopping up cauliflower and fry it with garlic and pepper and using the red wine sauce from the chicken to pour over it before serving. Fucking magic. It’s almost enough to make you forget that you’re a rat.
And many of the “smart” ones still think economic market models are more accurate than reality.
I’m tired, boss
I think the worst part is that we do, in fact, know it will get worse… But we were raised thinking we’d all live in big houses and be free of debt by now.
The cyclical boom bust cycle is on purpose. Can’t make billionaire’s richer if stock prices don’t go down.
Yeah. I’m gonna get fired for being room temperature one day.
I keep telling myself: could be worse. Could also be better, but could be worse 🤷😬
Not sure who I’m trying to convince haha.
And it will be. Buckle up, comrade.
At least I’m not being boiled alive
🤔
Yet
33? You’re a baby
Average male lifespan being 72, 36 is the average halfway done with life point
I know. I just meant to say they’re still pretty young, I don’t understand why all the downvoting. Haters gonna hate I guess
It’s Lemmy. This is the kind of people that can’t comment to each other without going ballistic over the slightest thing
The way you expressed that thought came off extremely condescending, that’s why you’re getting down votes.
“We don’t know why are all the younger generations depressed! They just need to buy less avacado toast and they can buy a house…”
-clueless boomers.
“Clearly it’s the phones fault! The phones are to blame, not us voting in fascists and ignoring the incoming climate holocaust!”
First year Gen X-er here. We know why you’re depressed. We went through similar things, believe it not. I often wish I could share how scary living through the 80s was – often fearing a nuclear apocalypse, environmental decline, wars, riots and unrest all over the world, politicians who didn’t give a damn or had no idea how to make things better. Nobody listens to you when you’re in your 20s. It seems most now think the 80s were just like Family Ties. Not so.
But this too shall pass. You can help make it better by getting out there and working with the good guys. Don’t give up.
My parents lived in the mountains for much of the Cold War. We crowded around the radio daily to listen if the risk of the actual apocalypse was any closer. Several times we thought it was about to happen. Several times it really did almost happen.
I hope we don’t get to that point again. I really thought for most of my adult life that the USA’s deep trade ties to the rest of the world along with other super-powers would ensure some level of stability and peace. And it did.
Past tense.
The important thing is to follow in the footsteps of our elders and obliviously cast shade on the next generation(s) (should they be so lucky to exist).
Yeah there’s definitely some rose tint looking back to the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. Crime was ridiculous compared to the levels these days, just for a start. But it was just ‘normal’. We’ve made a lot of progress there. Which is about to be undone as people get increasingly desperate.
There were several energy crisiss that kneecapped a lot of the 70s and 80. Nixon, the Vietnamese war, the fall of the USSR. All those things were monumental moments in history and we survived. The world isn’t over yet, but Trump is really trying to make everyone jump to the end game
I missed seeing Russia collapse, but I live in hope it will happen again in my lifetime.
Don’t forget to stop buying those fancy Starbucks coffees.
*Crises
Sorry. ❤️ I’m with you in the same boat.
Stop crying, geez.
(You’ll need those tears for your forties)I turned 40 in February. 😭
Welcome to the club, friend.
The booze is in the back.Wow, you got booze!?
Im only slightly older, I got to experience life in the dotcom kaboom. My entire adult life’s been: this is a once in a lifetime thing every 5 years. I’m guessing this is what the 1870s were like with all the finance stuff and overall turmoil. Bit numb to it by now.
I’m about to hit 50 and I’m still not done crying.
To be faaaair, i never said when it ends
sob I know sob
I wish I was 35.
Also, “crises.”
I graduated highschool, got out on my own, got 9/11. Then we had 2008 housing. Then we had corona. Probably some stuff I’m missing.
