I went on a first date with someone extremely attractive. Put “moderate” on her profile, didn’t seem too bad. With no prompting from me whatsoever she brings up trans people and asks what I think. I say something along the lines of well I get it because as a guy if someone said I was biologically a girl I’d still be a guy inside. She said she wants kids and if the kids are trans she’d beat it out of them.
I mean she was hot enough that I had the thought that maybe I could change her. But I had to say no to a second date because there’s no way I could date someone who wants to have kids together and then beat them for being themselves.
parents beating kids is a major red flag. means that they have some pretty unsavory beliefs like believing children are property in addition to being okay with violence. also means they don’t have appropriate conflict resolution and communication skills.
you dodged a bullet, they are some of the worst people humanity has to offer, hands down. coming from someone who had one of those parents. my sibling was beaten for questioning their sexuality.
I hope you told her why?
I think that the point is not strictly about gender and transgender rights strictly. It is about the having the freedom to represent yourself as you wish in social situations, versus the right to… I’m… something about not having to see something you don’t understand… no, it’s to not have to challenge your definition of the world even if other people doagree with it. Hmm lemme think about it again.
Yeah but you gotta look at both sides of the argument.
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I see it as basically it comes down to common morals, character traits whatever.If someone you’re interested in wants to do the opposite of your preference in the way of rights for a specific set of people that’s probably not due to the specific group as it’s more a not seeing eye to eye on on rights issues and there would be more to come in that relationship.
I’m straight but if I met a girl (passed that time forever hopefully) and she didn’t want to give people the same rights as themselves, well yeah not going to be interested anymore. I don’t even need a qualifier on people, we’re all humans and deserve the same rights to love who we want and be the person we are (as long as it doesn’t infringe on others besides their ‘decency’)
I don’t know that they want to deny others a right that they want to allow themselves. I think they want to deny others a right that they want to deny everyone, even themselves.
People are people. Treat them with decency and respect. ALL people. Not sure why that has to be considered a political view. I thought it was just being a good person.
Well duh, no bigots or fascists. Huge red flag about their whole personality.
Thank God I’m married, not touching a bigot with 100 million meter pole.
yeah, that’s much to unwieldy to get a good swing in. 3 feet is about perfect for me, and I can pretend it’s a cane for plausible deniability.
It makes sense, how can one feel safe around a person who hates and sees other human beings as less than human? It’s almost impossible to feel safe around a person like that.
honestly I can’t tell whether a plurality of men think women are humans, let alone trans women …
EDIT:
Lesbian, gay and bisexual women overwhelmingly identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party over the GOP (83% vs. 12%). Similarly, the Democratic Party enjoys a wide advantage among gay and bisexual men (83% vs. 17%).
Straight men are more likely to associate with the Republican Party than straight women (55% vs. 47%).
(source)
Men generally, but straight (and married esp.) men, seem to be “the problem”.
- Supporting the democrats does not make you a safe person for some people, especially class conscious minorities and vulnerable people who were on the kill list long before Trump
- Capitalism and patriarchy are the problem not men.
- Blaming men as if they’re a monolithic effectively ignores the spectrum of gender that exists and further alienates people who haven’t had the chance to meet their own selves.
- Blaming men has become a terf dog whistle
pretty much agree with all of that 👍
Or, “the problem” is an uneducated electorate: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2024/11/08/men-and-white-people-vote-differently-based-education
Whether this is due to “book smarts” or just a statement that going to college means you meet different people and generally expands your worldview, it seems to make a difference (men still more problematic than women, but less so when educated!).
Yes, I could not be with a hater, that is an immediate no go.
I would not be friends even with someone who could not learn. Ignorance that is teachable is manageable as a friend, but not someone who has decided to be wrong.
To police something so personal as gender expression is anti-American. Obviously if you care so much about people’s private lives as to make it a part of your personality, you would have to be a huge piece of shit.
I rather think that’s why they’re made the outgroup du jour, people were too accepting of and familiar with LBG people, so they said let’s narrow WAAAAAAY down to the Trans people and divide and conquer the marginalized groups
Don’t bang bigots. Simple as.
Huh, who would have guessed?
I’m not interested in dating someone who doesn’t think self determination is a fundamental human right.
“About half of people would be unwilling to engage in relationships with people they don’t share the same viewpoint on relationships as they do.” This and more breaking news at 11.
Because people who oppose trans rights (or the rights of anyone for that matter) are fundamentally going to be pricks. This statistic is not solely about trans rights. Smart people with any sense of self preservation just don’t want to date bigots and assholes.
Some people aren’t malicious but just really dumb and careless and get their politics from passive cultural osmosis. Sometimes they even respond well to reeducation efforts
…did they expect people who care about human rights to be interested in romantic connections with Nazis?
looks at results
Oh. What the fuck? Why are those numbers so low?
I’m not entirely comfortable around all trans people, some of them are pricks (as they were before transitioning).
I’m sure as fuck not comfortable around people who would not want equal rights for every minority, migrant, or consensual people(s) doing consented activities. Everyone deserves the rights that we agreed to have as a culture, even the pricks, I won’t stand with anyone who has theirs and tries to take away others.
Judge people for what they do, not what they are.
Yeah, if someone is against trans rights then they deserve no love
