• @[email protected]
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    Are sawmills and crews suddenly going to spring up to process all the new timber? Also, those trees aren’t necessarily construction quality species.

  • @[email protected]
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    Honestly, what’s the difference between logging in one make-believe-border geographic area vs another? Isn’t it doing the same damage to this planet in the long run?

    • @[email protected]
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      There are woodland species and grassland species. The grassland extends into the woodlands quite a bit. Even a small clearing in the middle of heavy woods makes a big dent in available woodland for species. Having large, unbroken areas of forest are essential for survival of the plants and animals that live there.

      That’s how a songbird researcher explained it to me.

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    Fucking conservatives online are touting this as a win, since “they [ephemeral] are already mismanaging the forests, and what sections are they logging, and it’s not clear cutting, etc.”

    It’s sick that they can’t even state that this is bad.

  • @[email protected]
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    If only there was a sustainable source nearby…maybe even a longtime free trade partner…

  • @[email protected]
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    The wildest part is what necessitated making this an emergency order, what’s the emergency? Corporations aren’t making enough money?

  • Miles O'Brien
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    I am the Lorax, I speak for the trees

    Hands off my forests or I’ll shoot your fucking knees.

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    I don’t know if threatening all our homelands is a great idea. I was raised by rangers, grew up scouting, lived in National Forests for a very formative chunk of my life. Sure, we all grew up in a bubble. We’re not French. But, we’re not going to just not resist. I keep picturing a mama bear defending her cubs, like in The Revenant. This is a vindictive order from the same guy that dodged serving in Vietnam, where he could have learned lessons about attacking people on their home turf in an unpopular war. The one saving grace is these lands are truly so magnificent and vast, most people will never be able to detect the intended atrocities. But I will. I’m supposed to be mountain biking in National Forests right now and am only delaying due to mechanical problems. All of us who actually restore these trails and spend time in these wildernesses will.

    The damage to commercial interests is the thing he’s really not calculating. Tourism, skiing, etc. will not be happy with this sabotage.

  • @[email protected]
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    What a stupid fucking move. Here in Oregon there are so many logging scars and shitty areas that were once beautiful old growth forests. The destruction logging leaves in its wake is sobering, terrifying and disgusting. We already have areas that are fucked up, monoculture wastelands. Keep raping that until we get our shit together.

    I can’t wait to read the big headline. Until then, they better fucking gridlock this in the courts.

    Cunts. All of them. Maybe we could get them to go stand out in the woods holding some branches.

  • SeeMarkFly
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    03 days ago

    Ooh, RAPE the forest. I thought he said RAKE the forest.

  • @[email protected]
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    Based on my googling, theres a severe labor shortage in logging. Hopefully we get the chance to overturn this before much damage is done. This EO and tariffs are unlikely to spur much investment if the possibility remains that they’ll just get overturned in 3 years. IF we get another election.

  • @[email protected]
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    Honestly all I can think is can America please die quietly. Your refusing to fight for yourself so why should we give a fuck

    • don
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      03 days ago

      I was under the assumption no cared about them.