Some women have never been told no. It can be more fun than saying yes sometimes though.
It’s funny, I has this exact scenario play out with a guy friend in college. It ruined our friendship. We were friends for maybe two years at that point and I was taken aback because I never saw him as anything but a friend and he even had a girlfriend at the time!
After that exchange, he got so awkward the friendship fell apart. We still had classes together but he avoided me and I was not pressed to be near him, so we never saw each other again after that semester.
IME the vast majority of women have no clue how to react to being rejected, because it almost never happens to them. As such, nearly all react badly or maladaptively regardless of conditions.
Conversely, for most men they have to endure rejection hundreds if not thousands of times before they strike it lucky. The small cohort that become maladaptive do so due to other social/societal reasons associated with the rejection, but vanishingly few react maladaptively purely because of the rejection.
You’re totally right there’s absolutely no evidence of a vast majority of women being physically attacked or assaulted after rejecting a man who couldn’t handle rejection…
Also if you got a thousand rejections before getting one yes then that might be a huuuge reason to look at yourself and how you come across. Hundreds of thousands of rejections have to be because of the person themselves, not the hundreds or thousands of people rejecting them.
Bruh, who the fuck is being rejected “hundreds, if not thousands” times? Maybe some people are, but thats such a red flag that I would argue then maybe they should change their approach in the first place.
Maybe you are exaggerating (it just makes you sound a bit like an incel, apologies), and I probably would argue men do get rejected more then woman, because men are still (mostly) expected to make the first move, but like you don’t need experience handling rejection to not have a violent rage fit.
Edit: I have read another one of your replies down the chain, and uh yeah you definitely do sound a lot like an incel.
Yea… I’m well into middle age and I’ve been rejected like a dozen or so times maybe. I’m not sure how you get rejected 100s or 1000s unless you’re just swinging at everyone in your vicinity that happens to have a vagina. Maybe try talking to them first and see if there’s some chemistry there before going for a date…
I’m in my 30s and probably at over 100 rejections like, total in my life. I’ve never been looking for long term relationships so I do try with a larger number of women than most men. But like…hundreds of rejections between success? That’s absurd. You’d run out of women.
Tell that to the surprisingly large number of men who threaten fucking violence against a girl for not wanting to go out with them.
I’m not saying you’re entirely wrong, but it’s not the only side of the story. Generally all people are really bad at handling emotions with other people, we need to make a stronger effort to turn these criticisms inward and figure out if our fears of other people are justified.
Yay for casual misogyny.
Our current western culture is one of violent misandry.
Women are being released from almost all historical expectations and constraints, which is wonderful and good. This is actual progress in action, however lopsided and gender-supremacy-like it might be.
Meanwhile, men are still constrained by all the historical expectations set out for them, yet have been completely stripped of all benefits that have traditionally accrued with those expectations being met. And yet, we are still being violently nailed to the wall - invariably by women ignoring and/or outright demeaning us - when we fail to meet those expectations.
This massive asymmetry that men experience is what is creating subgroups of disaffected men. Because 1ncels don’t just leap out of the ground, fully formed – they are a direct response to the unintended consequences of women trying to eat their cake and to have it as well. Think about that next time women refuse to date down, or demand a “666 man”, or expect the man to pay on the first date, or any other archaic and gender-bigoted expectation.
Go back to 4chan, incel.
While I agree with you, I don’t think it’s fair to characterize all of society as misandrist based on that. There’s a significant number of things that you’re ignoring or are not privy to, where women are harmed by men. The patriarchy isn’t just this fantasy that feminists made up, it’s a real thing, and while not as powerful as it used to be it still harms women substantially.
I think it’s fairer to say that some parts of our culture are misandrist, some misogynist. And on the whole, women have it worse - but men also have it pretty bad.
Dropping fucking truths
They really aren’t though.
Any man who has had the misfortune of finding out she didn’t actually want him to open up to her when she said “you never let me in!” understands this double-standard.
Well, the female friend basically said ‘I am so hot anyone I want (for example you) would love to have me as a girlfriend’.
By denying that, he denied her self worth.
Of course, her stance doesn’t take into account things like personal preference or matching personalities.
Or a less generous read: ‘you’re not attractive enough to get with anyone as hot as me so you couldn’t turn me down’.
Or how unattractive that mindset itself is. It’s like the opposite of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
There is a very fitting song for this.
Stupid Girl Lyrics
[Verse 1]
You pretend you’re high
Pretend you’re bored
Pretend you’re anything
Just to be adored
And what you need
Is what you get
[Pre-Chorus]
Don’t believe in fear
Don’t believe in faith
Don’t believe in anything
That you can’t break
[Chorus]
You stupid girl (Ah)
You stupid girl (Ah)
All you had, you wasted (Ah)
All you had, you wasted (Ah)
[Verse 2]
What drives you on (Drives you on)
Can drive you mad (Drive you mad)
A million lies to sell yourself
Is all you ever had
[Pre-Chorus]
Don’t believe in love
Don’t believe in hate
Don’t believe in anything
That you can’t waste
[Chorus]
You stupid girl (Ah)
You stupid girl (Ah)
Can’t believe you fake it (Ah)
Can’t believe you fake it (Ah)
[Instrumental Break]
[Pre-Chorus]
Don’t believe in fear
Don’t believe in pain
Don’t believe in anyone
That you can’t tame
Basically, if this is a representative sample of this girl’s personality …
(huge if there, this is a single 4chan post lol)
… then she is a textbook narcissist, potentially to the point of being diagnosable with NPD if she doesn’t grow out of this attitude, get a reality check that actually sinks into the subconscious.
A spoiled, pampered brat whose never been told no, who never gets any real, meaningful interaction or validation, and tries to fill that void with a grandiose self image, absurd overconfidence and privelege.
Angelica from Rugrats.
…And my take here would be the same if the genders/sexes were reversed, or some other combo.
It is pretty not normal for anybody to have that kind of interaction with anybody else, to just boisterously state they could have ‘insert random person’, then have rando anon just flatly reply ‘sorry not interested’, … and then throw a giant hissy fit.
I am seriously hoping this interaction occures between 12 or 14 year olds, but looking at the horror kaleidoscope that is social media these days?
Yeah, could be anybody, any age, at this point.
So many comments giving OP advice on how to get into a relationship with the girl. Has a single person here, at all, considered that maybe, just maybe, OP genuinely didn’t want a relationship with this girl…?
I also think deflecting with “nah you couldn’t” would be funny in the right context. Follow it with a joke about increasing her powerlevel first and you’re good
“The odds are good, but the goods are odd.”
I’m sure everyone has their own answer to this question but I would really like her to clarify, what do you mean ‘have me’?
I think the better clarification we need to make is that this is 4chan and thus utterly made-up bullshit, or designed to further an agenda.
Please let it be pegging
Why doesn’t that happen to me?
The correct reply is…
“There’s really only one way you could have me, and that is [describe whatever sort of sexual kink you’re into]. After that, I might consider it.”
“… If your boobs were like 6 times as big, but still natural…”
A truly discerning woman would blumpy me while having my dog.
Be prepared with pictures to make sure your communication is clear.
Make a WikiHow, don’t let her know you wrote it, make it weirdly specific but in a plausibly deniable way.
That’s oddly specific
Hahaha. Just another case of being gay unbeknownst to OP.
Bro this is basically an invitation for you to say “prove it”
lol you are jellous bro you don’t have female friends. I have, and this really happened to me with so many females more than one also
good bait bro
Lol you caught at least 8 n counting with this. there’s some real anger hahaha nice jorb
i’m sure you’ve slayed so much puss with your massive meat rod please tell anonymous internet people more about your triumphs slamming clam.
I’m in the middle of a party with so many females. having good time and no time to talk to internet losers lol. Now ordering pizza for Claire, one of my female friends, who I’ve hit before you know, haha sexually that is.
Read this in JFK’s voice from clone high 😂
Damn this white boy quirked up!
She does cheap ear piercings on the side.
Nobody cares
Opps… one female is calling me. I don’t have time to reply. See you later virgins!
What would be a good response? “Maybe. But you just made it much less likely with that sentence alone.”
The core concept of the problem is not related to gender, it’s just that in societies highly differentiated by gender people have different means.
Talk to male friend
He randomly says if he wanted me he could have me
I tell him no he couldn’t
He gets really mad and says he could easily have me if he wanted to, practically has a fit of rage
Changed pronouns exemplifies that that the core concept of this is that “having someone” is supposedly less about consent and more about compliance to standardised appearance (aka so-called “objective” beauty). If you have a lot of means (e.g. male or wealth privilege), this gets creepy real fast.
Like offering a horse
Should’ve said “prove it then”.
????
Girlfriend
