cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28249577

Top Trump official Stephen Miller’s recent declaration that anyone who “preaches hate for America” will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump’s platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller’s is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 days ago

    That goes against the first amendment, which I think makes it anti-american. Can Stephen Miller start by deporting himself?

      • @[email protected]
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        012 days ago

        They always hated what the Constitution actually has in it, like no endorsement of their god, for instance.

      • flandish
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        012 days ago

        They never were. Unless they added things that helped them or a cohort at a given time. cf: prohibition, its repeal, etc.

        • @[email protected]
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          012 days ago

          I don’t think they care about their hypocrisy, tbh - I think they view themselves as more American while dismantling America. This is just how reactionary coups work, they appeal to nationalism, but insist on reverting to an older status quo as a more authentic version of that nationalism. (It’s a re-invisioning of America in a sense.)

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              11 days ago

              yes, and in some sense it doesn’t really matter if even the founding of America conflicts with their America - they believe their America is more American. This is the reactionary mindset, that the past is best while not even having the education to know what the past was. Instead the ideals are set as an agenda by whatever the reactionary institutions say the past is, and in political movements those ideals and details often change as needed for political gains. Unfortunately this is not just exclusive to reactionaries (the Russian revolution brought about Stalin after all and the French revolution led to Napoleon), but I do tend to think reactionary minds are more quick to accept reality based on authority rather than reason or evidence, and that makes them more politically convenient as followers.

              All the more reason to view the reactionaries as not really invested in any particular past or tradition, but instead as being influenced by certain groups and people - those most visible and influential often being more like grifters than theologians or stewards of tradition.

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    012 days ago

    I don’t hate America. America is a continent. It would be really silly to hate an entire continent.

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    011 days ago

    Trump once said that this guy, Kapo Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller, told him that he’d like to see America’s population reduced from the current 335 million down to 100 million.

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        011 days ago

        He’s essentially daring us to use the 2nd Amendment, which is exactly what they want. Then they can declare Martial Law, and suspend the Mid-term elections.

        They cant allow the 2026 Mid-Term to happen. Its shaping up to be a bloodbath for MAGA, and if they lose either chamber, the Dems will control investigative committees with subpoena and arrest power. So they are looking for an excuse to suspend elections for the first time in our history.

        So they will be trying to goad us into violence through their words and actions, and eventually they will incite violence at the protests, which will be nearly daily by next summer. They have to time it carefully, and suspend elections close enough to election day that the courts can’t react in time. That means next summer will be really ugly.

        This is just the start.

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            11 days ago

            America has NEVER suspended an election, even during the Civil War. Just declaring them suspended would be far too alarming for even many MAGA Morons. They’ll want an excuse, a justification, to keep as many of their stupidest followers on board for as long as possible.

            Thats how it’s done. They didn’t send a bunch of innocent brown people to El Salvador, they sent “violent gang members,” even though at least 80% had no criminal record. They need to keep plausible deniability for as long as possible, to keep things from getting too hot and boiling over.

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              011 days ago

              You overestimate the maga morons. If it triggers the libs they will get on board of suspending the elections.

  • Phoenixz
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    011 days ago

    Disagreeing with the dear leader will also be the same as preaching hate for America

    Not clapping enthusiastic enough will also be the same as preaching hate for America

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    12 days ago

    But he’s doing it right now??? Ohh he’s conflating the current administration with America even though all their values are in complete contradiction to everything this country is supposed to stand for. Got it.

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    012 days ago

    Fuck America, Fuck Trump, Fuck these nazi pricks, and congratz, you’ll never have to deport me, I won’t ever visit your shithole of a country.

  • greenfire
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    012 days ago

    Who hates America more by their actions than the GOP?

  • @[email protected]
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    012 days ago

    I love America. I swore to defend it against all enemies. I do not love what it is doing or who the government defines as enemies.

    • flandish
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      012 days ago

      When will you recognize that the government is behaving as if citizens are the enemy and itself is actually doing the same things enemies do…

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      012 days ago

      I love who the government defines as enemies. I don’t love that the government defines them as enemies.

  • Avid Amoeba
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    012 days ago

    So let’s say that SCOTUS rules that this policy infringes on the first amendment. Then they deport another person. Who’s to stop doing it?

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    12 days ago

    I’m pretty sure Stephen Miller is just undead Goebbels resurrected in a skin suit. Not as smart, but the instincts are intact.