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Google assimilated and ruined the brand Nest. I don’t know who created the thermostats, but they will be shut down, like all the others, once the enshittified products generate too little income.
Dude, they’re 11 years old.
It’s a fucking thermostat my dude that’s not very old have you ever been in a house
No, it’s a computer that controls relays. Computers that connect to the Internet need security updates to not be attack vectors. Blocking insecure devices from connecting to your servers is good security.
The devices aren’t bricks. They still function as thermostats. You just can’t use their cloud service with them.
It’s a thermostat, my parents still have one of those goldtone Honeywell ones with a dial from like the 1960’s. The only reason the app won’t work is because they can’t be bothered to support it. Stop making things obsolescent, make it mandatory that all this crap has a set support time after which it must be open sourced.
No, it’s a computer that runs a thermostat.
And you generally don’t allow devices that aren’t receiving security updates to continue accessing servers.
I do agree with making them open source it, though.
But they also aren’t bricking the devices. They still work as thermostats.
So fucking what? Stop repeating this shitty, weak argument over and over again.
There is absolutely no logical reason why they can’t continue to support it, no matter how old it gets. A 20-year-old computer can run modern Linux just fine with security updates, why can’t a 12-year-old thermostat that is also running on a heavily modified Linux?
Agreed. If copyrights expire, then why not for proprietary software, especially when it’s no longer supported?
We shouldn’t be forced to replace tech this frequently. If you are comfortable shelling out money for the next big thing that is on you. The rest of us want functioning products that last.
You’re not being forced to replace anything. The thermostats still operate as thermostats. You just can’t use their cloud service.
Devices that connect to the Internet need continuous updates to not become vulnerable to attacks. At some point it’s perfectly reasonable to end of life a product, and I think over a decade of supporting a computer is reasonable.
My current thermostat is at least 20 years old. What’s your point? That we should accept big tech telling us to throw our devices away long before they’ve outlived their usefulness because their programmers can’t do their jobs without an ever growing 16-layered ball of code that performs like crap?
Your current thermostat isn’t a computer that connects to the Internet, is it?
The thermostats still work locally.
20 year old code can work as well as the day it was written. This is tech companies tying hardware to cloud services that they have no interest in supporting 10 years after they sold it to you.
Working as well and being secure are two different things. Smart devices are computers that connect to the Internet, and devices that no longer receive security updates are attack vectors.
From a SecOps standpoint, it’s perfectly reasonable to block such devices from hitting your servers.
These thermostats still work as thermostats, you just can’t use the cloud service.
And still work fine.
And? If your device is no longer receiving security updates, it’s perfectly reasonable to not allow it to access your servers.
