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  • I see what the issue is here, is that you are upset with me saying that humans have a more complex genome, and not about the discussion of radiation effecting different species of animals, I see. Yes I will concede that the term “complex” for genome is not a good descriptor. There are a lot of reasons why humans are mor susceptible to radiation with immediate effects, and that is not due to “complexity.” However, it is still true that we are more susceptible than dogs, and it is still true that the dogs of Chernobyl are better at handling radiation than humans and generally are OK with the fallout there.

    However go fuck yourself for the introduction to your comment. “Don’t read the shit they quote” when the paper we both cited proved our points that we were making.



  • This is actually completely false. Go ahead and find me a peer reviewed article that shows dogs of Chernobyl having higher cancer rates than other dogs. Here is an article that says otherwise https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10358910/

    We have no evidence that proves hormesis and you are suggesting with no evidence that the dogs we study now, after 50 years have undergone evolution to no longer have cancer.

    If you don’t understand radiation, contamination, and dose, that is OK. It is a huge subject that takes years of understanding and I think is the main reason we have this fear of nuclear, because as a whole we don’t understand. Yes the dogs are contaminated but because of their genetic make up, the amount of contamination they have does not give them an appreciable dose. That some contamination would be enough to want to consider cancer risk in humans, even though it is still extremely minimal. Dogs do get cancer, but it is unproven if that is due to radiation completely, because dogs get cancer just like we get cancer for many reasons.


  • I’m a nuclear physist not a biologist, so I don’t know the main differences between genetic makeup between species. The “fun fact” about being genetically close to a banana is mostly just a fun fact and doesnt mean anything when it comes to cell production/reproduction.

    When it comes to interactions with nuclear forces, our cells and DNA are more complex than any animal that we’ve studied. This is why dogs can exist within Chernobyl’s radiation zone and live very normal lives. Their DNA can withstand the higher levels of particle bombardment and not have higher risk of cancer or deformities.


  • This reads like the ramblings of a madman and I could not spend the time going through it so I will just address the claim of the “one atom causing cancer in a lineage of animals” as a bold, bold lie. A single atom of any heavy element does not produce any amount of energy that would cause cancer risk in humans. Even accounting for the entire decay chain. Humans are also the most at risk due to our complex DNA.

    Edit: since I had done some more research I’ll edit to show that human are among the most susceptible to radiation causing cancer and immediate effects. While plants are the more susceptible and some animals due to their cell make-up and reproduction speed and many other factors (again I’m no biologist) they can be more susceptible, but humans are typically the most at risk when looking at effects of radiation. Either way, a single plutonium atom has an activity level of 1.4x10^-24 curies. We probably couldn’t detect this with our most sensitive equipment if we tried as it would be washed away with background radiation. It will certainly not harm anything.