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  • @[email protected]
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    09 months ago

    It’s a red state. No chance of anything but a Trump win.

    Please explain why their “not TRUMP” vote should be given to Biden?

    • @[email protected]
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      19 months ago

      Because trumpets will always vote Trump. People voting for third party may not be actively supporting Trump, but the 3rd party has zero chance of winning so the only way to keep Trump from winning is to vote for who actually can win against him currently. Which is biden.

    • @[email protected]
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      9 months ago

      Being a red state doesn’t guarantee a Trump win though. In the last election he assumed Georgia would put him over the top because they are historically a red state but they actually ended up swinging over to blue by a small majority.

      There was a huge controversy around it because Trump called up people there and told them to tamper with the numbers to let him win anyway

      The Republican party is counting on the idea that people forget these things quickly lol

      • @[email protected]
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        09 months ago

        OK, but OP mentioned a Red state specifically. They want a more nuanced answer than “vote blue just in case”.

        Assume a state so red, Trump loving and Biden hating that there is no possibility of a blue win. Is voting Biden in that particular state still the best strategy for the future of the USA?

        • HubertManne
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          19 months ago

          There is never no possibility. Florida is considered a red state up there with texas and gore lost to it from a florida court decision on hanging chads.

          • @[email protected]
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            9 months ago

            Florida wasn’t a red state, more democrats have won than Republicans in Florida. It’s the past few years thing that the racism is taking hold quickly.

            • HubertManne
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              29 months ago

              that just shows a state can change and it can change at any time. enough folks could get fed up that with your vote the outcome is different. Politics is like the stock market. You can use historical trends to guess at the future but historical trends do not always indicate future behaviour.

      • @[email protected]
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        09 months ago

        Because there are lots of other people who are not Trump.

        Voting for candidates with more extreme policies shifts the political needle, even if they don’t win.

        • @[email protected]
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          19 months ago

          OP has given us no info about the candidates they’re considering other than RFK, who is a lunatic. There’s no merit to encouraging RFK’s views, so Biden should be OP’s choice.

          • @[email protected]
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            09 months ago

            RFK has significantly less lunacy than Trump, and is much more coherent than both Biden and Trump.

            He still supports Israel though, so there is no anti genocide candidate.

              • @[email protected]
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                09 months ago

                The way RFK makes (coherent) arguments in public is streets ahead of Biden and Trump, but so is almost any politician.

                In terms of honesty, RFK is between Biden and Trump. Half truths and populism, rather than the full lies of Trump.

                • @[email protected]
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                  19 months ago

                  No, it isn’t. He’s a conspiracy theorist. Voting for him is endorsing conspiracy theorists.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    09 months ago

                    The Tuskegee experiment is not the same as Flat Earth. Conspiracy theories are not a homogeneous and neither are conspiracy theorists.