A man who vowed to light VP Kamala Harris on fire and "personally pluck out her eyes" reacted with surprise when investigators showed up at his door, a complaint alleges.
“[F]or a comment. This is ridiculous, for a comment,” he allegedly said. “I guess I’m gonna need a lawyer.”
The comment:
Carillo in one post said Harris doesn’t “have a snowballs chance in hell which is exactly where you’re going and soon. I will cut your eyes out of your FUCKING head” and “will make sure you suffer a slow agonizing death."
He said he would “personally” set Harris on fire “if no one else does."
Carillo said Harris is “going to regret ever trying to become president because if that ever happened I will personally pluck out her eyes with a pair of pliers but first I will shoot and kill everyone that gets in my way that is a fucking promise.”
What is it that this person believes she has done that deserves such a horrible death? It’s hard for me to wrap my mind around why someone thinks like this
There’s been a coordinated campaign of dehumanization in the right-wing media for decades. This guy has been indoctrinated to see her as the enemy and to not see her as a person
Even the most evil people I can think of. The most I’d want them to “suffer” is the realization of how terrible they are, before they enter the void. I don’t want them tortured. I don’t want to hurt them. I just want them to not exist.
The “comments” this guy made are psychotic. I don’t mean that in a hyperbolic kind of way. I mean in a “danger to society” kind of way.
Yep. I’ve written my fair share of angry opinionated comments. I managed to do it without threatening death on any elected officials though, or of anyone at all, and I especially did not do so while also claiming to be a member of the “law and order” party. Somehow, no matter how angry I got, I was able to recognize that assassination was probably not a good line to cross, even in rhetoric.
I certainly see your point. That said, devil’s advocate, the comment doesn’t refer merely to political opponents, but rather:
the most evil people I can think of
Can you honestly say that you wouldn’t painlessly snap, let’s say, a proven serial child rapist out of existence? I think I’d do it, if for some reason the justice system was unable to stop them.
Yeah, there’s a gulf of difference between wanting a problem to disappear vs relishing the incredibly detailed idea of pain and suffering of another human being. One’s like putting down a rabid dog, the other is just pain for pains sake.
all democrats are blacks and black sympathizers (same thing to these guys)
So they aren’t all wrong. Black folks have not only been wronged all throughout our nation’s history in obvious and non-obvious ways, IMO they have already been mostly thanklessly taking the brunt of what is coming for the rest of us if Trump gets in again for all this time, and as a people have arguably done so with amazing grace and restraint overall.
I mean, I’m not black, but if such a thing as a “black sympathizer” exists, I’m it.
you know what the fun part is? they literally don’t believe that shit, they NEED to hate blacks.
if you believe that society doesn’t matter and are a hyper individualist, then you need an individual reason why minorities aren’t doing well, if there is an entire “race” of people worse off, more impoverished, more likely to be incarcerated, more likely to be associated with drugs, etc… and you believe society doesn’t have an impact, then clearly something must be wrong with every POC, and you, their supporter, must be wanting to make things worse for everyone
A figurehead saying the same thing therefore making the act seem normal. That’s why being called weird stings them so much because they know they are, they know you know that and they are counting on you not doing anything about it
Not just regular mustard, but the fancy Dijon shit. The type that you can find right next to the regular yellow mustard and is typically only slightly more expensive ($0.20) per 12 FL oz.
I wonder if it is some kind of frustration burst release that finds a convenient path of list effort in the far-right propaganda. Like when people get furious alone inside their own car and call everybody names, or gamers threatening your life online after some loss, because there’s no perceived emotional consequences so they don’t need to restrain themselves, same idea but more extreme. I don’t think most of those people would have the heart of doing such horrible things if they were in front of their target and had to face the inevitable human empathy. Sociopaths with zero empathy are probably much rarer than Trump supporters.
Out of all the thousand stories we’ve all seen where the message is that sometimes you end up being worse than your enemy, it all flew completely over some people’s heads. They’re different. Sure, other people’s violence isn’t justifiable. But mine is.
I just want to get to a world where “that is a fucking promise” is actually a promise.
This is like the whole “figuratively” vs. “literally” thing turned up to 11. Are you actually, literally promising to do something? If not, then don’t say “I promise” just to make it understood that you feel something passionately.
“I thought this was America where we have FREEDOM OF SPEECH to just comment on how we’re going to torture, mutilate, and kill presidential candidates, not some communist fascist dictatorship. Except if you talk bad about Trump, you’ll get killed for that.”
–Somebody somewhere
In this day and age, who hasn’t made incredibly specific ultraviolent threats against an elected official while constantly reassuring others that they are serious/making a promise to enact these threats? Did this upstanding citizen simply forget to cite his first amendment rights to the agents?
His comments are way worse if you read the affidavit. That’s just what they chose to publish. He really does threaten her even worse than what the article is directly publishing, not to mention threatening that poor Maricopa county Recorder.
The comment:
What is it that this person believes she has done that deserves such a horrible death? It’s hard for me to wrap my mind around why someone thinks like this
There’s been a coordinated campaign of dehumanization in the right-wing media for decades. This guy has been indoctrinated to see her as the enemy and to not see her as a person
Even the most evil people I can think of. The most I’d want them to “suffer” is the realization of how terrible they are, before they enter the void. I don’t want them tortured. I don’t want to hurt them. I just want them to not exist.
The “comments” this guy made are psychotic. I don’t mean that in a hyperbolic kind of way. I mean in a “danger to society” kind of way.
Yep. I’ve written my fair share of angry opinionated comments. I managed to do it without threatening death on any elected officials though, or of anyone at all, and I especially did not do so while also claiming to be a member of the “law and order” party. Somehow, no matter how angry I got, I was able to recognize that assassination was probably not a good line to cross, even in rhetoric.
So you want them to die, you just don’t want them to be killed? Lol
I certainly see your point. That said, devil’s advocate, the comment doesn’t refer merely to political opponents, but rather:
Can you honestly say that you wouldn’t painlessly snap, let’s say, a proven serial child rapist out of existence? I think I’d do it, if for some reason the justice system was unable to stop them.
Yeah, there’s a gulf of difference between wanting a problem to disappear vs relishing the incredibly detailed idea of pain and suffering of another human being. One’s like putting down a rabid dog, the other is just pain for pains sake.
I’m not disagreeing with the previous comment, I just thought it was funny.
That’s how war works.
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you forgot “being black”
You forgot “not being black”.
all democrats are blacks and black sympathizers (same thing to these guys)
So they aren’t all wrong. Black folks have not only been wronged all throughout our nation’s history in obvious and non-obvious ways, IMO they have already been mostly thanklessly taking the brunt of what is coming for the rest of us if Trump gets in again for all this time, and as a people have arguably done so with amazing grace and restraint overall.
I mean, I’m not black, but if such a thing as a “black sympathizer” exists, I’m it.
you know what the fun part is? they literally don’t believe that shit, they NEED to hate blacks.
if you believe that society doesn’t matter and are a hyper individualist, then you need an individual reason why minorities aren’t doing well, if there is an entire “race” of people worse off, more impoverished, more likely to be incarcerated, more likely to be associated with drugs, etc… and you believe society doesn’t have an impact, then clearly something must be wrong with every POC, and you, their supporter, must be wanting to make things worse for everyone
Are you sure it wasn’t “not being a man?”
“not being a white male Republican”
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Think of the children
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She’s a symbolic scapegoat for everything wrong in americans lives and thus the source of everything wrong with this guys life.
Because “Muh Teem No Mattur Wut!” Stupidity, which is pitiable, and Hatefulness, which isn’t.
A figurehead saying the same thing therefore making the act seem normal. That’s why being called weird stings them so much because they know they are, they know you know that and they are counting on you not doing anything about it
She probably wore a tan suit or put mustard on a hot dog at some point in her life.
Not just regular mustard, but the fancy Dijon shit. The type that you can find right next to the regular yellow mustard and is typically only slightly more expensive ($0.20) per 12 FL oz.
Then probably in the next sentence would rant about the violent left
But yeah, I don’t get it, I wouldn’t wish torture even on the worst people in the world and history, it’s just really unnecessary and disturbing
I wonder if it is some kind of frustration burst release that finds a convenient path of list effort in the far-right propaganda. Like when people get furious alone inside their own car and call everybody names, or gamers threatening your life online after some loss, because there’s no perceived emotional consequences so they don’t need to restrain themselves, same idea but more extreme. I don’t think most of those people would have the heart of doing such horrible things if they were in front of their target and had to face the inevitable human empathy. Sociopaths with zero empathy are probably much rarer than Trump supporters.
Out of all the thousand stories we’ve all seen where the message is that sometimes you end up being worse than your enemy, it all flew completely over some people’s heads. They’re different. Sure, other people’s violence isn’t justifiable. But mine is.
“Its just a comment, bro, I was just postin”
Didn’t finish with a “in Minecraft” at the end. Rookie mistake.
What a twat.
How stupid of him. If only had just said “haha sike naw jk lol lol lol” after every sentence.
“Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America”
Or had an ® after his name
Real small dick energy
I just want to get to a world where “that is a fucking promise” is actually a promise.
This is like the whole “figuratively” vs. “literally” thing turned up to 11. Are you actually, literally promising to do something? If not, then don’t say “I promise” just to make it understood that you feel something passionately.
Like who would have thought that writing shit like this UNDER YOUR OFFICIAL NAME would have consequences?
“I thought this was America where we have FREEDOM OF SPEECH to just comment on how we’re going to torture, mutilate, and kill presidential candidates, not some communist fascist dictatorship. Except if you talk bad about Trump, you’ll get killed for that.” –Somebody somewhere
In this day and age, who hasn’t made incredibly specific ultraviolent threats against an elected official while constantly reassuring others that they are serious/making a promise to enact these threats? Did this upstanding citizen simply forget to cite his first amendment rights to the agents?
Oh, wow. Yep, seems like a crime. Laughing about or wishing death is free speech. Indicating that you intend to do something is the line.
Yeah, this sure is “ridiculous”
dude deserves solitary imo.
Yeah the feds aren’t gonna fuck around with a statement like that.
Especially if you own guns.
His comments are way worse if you read the affidavit. That’s just what they chose to publish. He really does threaten her even worse than what the article is directly publishing, not to mention threatening that poor Maricopa county Recorder.