• @[email protected]
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    03 months ago

    Can you blame them, though? I can’t think of a single person speaking for young men who is also widely accepted by the liberal left - or however you want to define the “good guys.” Even here on Lemmy, anyone slightly deviating from the narrative is met with extreme hostility. It’s not that young men are naturally drawn to figures like Andrew Tate - they’re being pushed there.

    • Diplomjodler
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      03 months ago

      What narrative would that be? That all people, regardless of gender, ethnicity etc. deserve equal rights?

      • @[email protected]
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        03 months ago

        “You disagree with our narrative? You must be a sexist racist then.”

        Thanks for illustrating my point.

        • @[email protected]
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          03 months ago

          If you disagree that all people should be equal then I won’t treat you as an equal.

          This doesn’t require a ted talk. It’s just fairness.

            • @[email protected]
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              03 months ago

              I don’t. I was simply restating what you said, but in a way that was less pointlessly confrontational.

                • @[email protected]
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                  03 months ago

                  Where’s the accusation? I simply stated a fact.

                  “If you’re over 6 get tall you’re taller than me” - I’m not accusing you of being tall.

                  “If you think bigoted things I’m going to treat you poorly” - also not an accusation. Just a fact.

                  That said, if you’re feeling like it’s an accusation, you might internally be worried that you are a bigot. But that’s a problem for you and your subconscious to sort out. Nothing to do with me.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    03 months ago

                    There you go making assumptions about people again. You’re rather aggressive aren’t you? Why so angry? Why are you always looking for confrontation? What a sad pathetic life you have.

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      03 months ago

      I just can’t take anyone seriously who refers to liberalism as “the liberal left.” Liberals absolutely have not treated young men well, but for fuck sakes man read a fucking book or something just once in your life.

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        I literally don’t know how to describe the userbase of a platform like Lemmy any other way but maybe you can suggest me a better term then. I’m not talking about liberalism. I’m talking about a group of people.

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          03 months ago

          Liberalism, which is a centre right ideology if we’re using that idiotic left right scale, is fundamentally different from leftism and conflating the two is disingenuous at best and willfully ignorant at worst.

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            -13 months ago

            What’s wrong about calling it liberal left then when literally 100% of those people are left wing leaning? Isn’t that like saying “the conservative right”?