@[email protected] @ponda @[email protected] We also wanted to additionally clarify that we won't be adopting the Firefox Terms of Use for Thunderbird, either on desktop or on mobile.
Thought this was interesting and worth knowing about
You’re welcome. I’ve been covering this issue since it’s been announced. There are a number of accounts who are either deliberately spreading misinformation or who have a very poor understanding of how software licenses work.
Anyone who tells you that these terms are normal for a locally run browser is making the posts in bad faith.
I’ve been super frustrated by lemmy posting vague info then going to watch some Linux and selfhosting YouTubers for them to only explain or gossip the issue for 20 minutes without alternatives.
My lord, you’re the one who misunderstands licenses. And all internet browsers are “locally run” that’s literally what makes them browsers. They browse non-local resources.
Just for one major example, literally chrome has a ToS.
You’re the one arguing in bad faith. Holy shit you’re spreading so much misinformation it’s astounding.
Yes, but the problem isn’t really the browser itself, it’s Mozilla which has turned in an advertising company, supported by Google and another ad company. If you need to sync your data and want to stay private, you have to do it with an third party or selfhosted cloud service, independend which FF fork you use.
Not a lot of options for iOS. There’s Tor browser and Brave that I know of. Brave is surprisingly good, but I don’t do a lot of serious navigation in the phone, and tend to favor private mode so the tracking gets deleted once I close the tab.
There may be Mac specific browsers that might be a better fit. I don’t use a Mac personally but could be worth going through the App store to see what is out there.
Do you see installing a .dmg file (or installing through homebrew) on macOS as a workaround, or what do you mean? I’m not sure I have ever installed a single app from their store, so maybe it’s just that such a “workaround” feels normal to me, but scary to others?
Mozilla’s new TOU only covers pre built Firefox executables, not the source code.
Librewolf and Waterfox are good forks that would not be bound to the TOU.
Thanks for an actual answer
You’re welcome. I’ve been covering this issue since it’s been announced. There are a number of accounts who are either deliberately spreading misinformation or who have a very poor understanding of how software licenses work.
Anyone who tells you that these terms are normal for a locally run browser is making the posts in bad faith.
Thanks for further explaining.
I’ve been super frustrated by lemmy posting vague info then going to watch some Linux and selfhosting YouTubers for them to only explain or gossip the issue for 20 minutes without alternatives.
So far trying librefox.
Librewolf btw.
I’ve personally moved to Waterfox and very much enjoying the experience, with a few hiccups.
My lord, you’re the one who misunderstands licenses. And all internet browsers are “locally run” that’s literally what makes them browsers. They browse non-local resources.
Just for one major example, literally chrome has a ToS.
You’re the one arguing in bad faith. Holy shit you’re spreading so much misinformation it’s astounding.
Yes, but the problem isn’t really the browser itself, it’s Mozilla which has turned in an advertising company, supported by Google and another ad company. If you need to sync your data and want to stay private, you have to do it with an third party or selfhosted cloud service, independend which FF fork you use.
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The Walled Garden is actually the problem, then.
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Sorry, wasn’t trying to agitate, just spewing on the Net.
Not a lot of options for iOS. There’s Tor browser and Brave that I know of. Brave is surprisingly good, but I don’t do a lot of serious navigation in the phone, and tend to favor private mode so the tracking gets deleted once I close the tab.
There may be Mac specific browsers that might be a better fit. I don’t use a Mac personally but could be worth going through the App store to see what is out there.
Do you see installing a .dmg file (or installing through homebrew) on macOS as a workaround, or what do you mean? I’m not sure I have ever installed a single app from their store, so maybe it’s just that such a “workaround” feels normal to me, but scary to others?
https://librewolf.net/installation/macos/
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