Dear European enthusiasts,

We’re excited to grow Europe Pub and need your help to make it thrive! We’re looking for passionate individuals to join us as community builders and moderators.

What we need:

  1. Community builders to breathe life into our existing communities
  2. Moderators for country-specific communities who speak the native languages

Why native-speaking moderators are crucial: Europe’s beauty lies in its linguistic diversity. We want to replicate this diversity in our country-specific communities. Our goal is to ensure that every European can participate in discussions using their native language. This approach will make Europe Pub truly inclusive and representative of our continent’s rich tapestry of languages and cultures.

This is your chance to contribute to the fediverse movement and create a truly European social network. Let’s break free from centralized American social media and build something that represents our diverse continent.

Whether you’re passionate about European culture, politics, or simply want to connect with fellow Europeans, we’d love to have you on board. No technical expertise required – just enthusiasm, a love for Europe, and fluency in your native European language!

If you’re interested in helping shape Europe Pub, please comment below or send me a message.

Let’s work together to create a vibrant, inclusive space! 🇪🇺

  • @[email protected]
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    01 month ago

    Thank you for your comment

    The idea of migrating communities when moderation becomes problematic sounds good in theory, but in practice, it rarely works, especially as the network scales up. It’s also cumbersome. People don’t want to uproot and start over repeatedly, and large communities don’t just “move” smoothly. Instead, they tend to fracture, lose engagement, or remain stuck under poor leadership.

    People left [email protected] after the power tripping: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29606682. [email protected] became the most active community

    [email protected] is also another example: https://feddit.org/post/7025680/4263481

    get that, but this feels like a problem that should be solved at the platform level rather than by consolidating communities. People should be able to subscribe to multiple similar communities across different instances, and the feed algorithm should be able to detect and bundle similar posts across these communities. However, it should not decide which content is “best”. It should simply organize the feed more efficiently without interfering with visibility.

    This is not going to happen any time soon for Lemmy, and even though Piefed has feeds, the issue stays the same: if a question about European luggage is listed on 3 different communities, people are not going to copy paste their answers in the 3 communities, leading to discussion splintering

    In the end, this is the ongoing dilemma of decentralization: Do we prioritize distribution of power, or do we focus on ease of use? There’s no perfect answer, but we should aim for a balance rather than rushing to consolidate.

    I am in favor of having one community, [email protected] , due to the good track record of the instance admins.

    Should the mods start power tripping, people can organize on [email protected]

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      11 month ago

      People left [email protected] after the power tripping

      Firstly, [email protected] still has 2,500 subscribers, while [email protected] only has 1,500 at this point. Additionally, the moderators are now directing users to [email protected], which has even fewer subscribers (around 200), as mentioned in this post. Rather than a clean transition, this situation has resulted in a fractured community.

      Secondly, in this case, the issue was malicious moderation. Users left because of bad mod behavior, but the real concern remains: admins have the final say. If an admin decides to power trip, the entire community—and potentially the whole instance—falls under their control.

      This brings us back to the exact problem Reddit has. As long as the company aligned with community interests, it could hold rogue moderators accountable. But once Reddit had a financial or ideological agenda, entire communities were left powerless.

      In contrast, a decentralized approach with similar communities on different instances offers a natural fail-safe. If one instance becomes problematic, users can easily regroup on other similar communities rather than having to start from scratch. This ensures continuity and resilience rather than the all-or-nothing risk of centralization.

      If a question about European luggage is listed on three different communities, people are not going to copy-paste their answers in all of them, leading to discussion splintering.

      If Lemmy’s feed algorithm can bundle similar posts, it can also bundle comments. This is a matter of software development, not an inherent flaw in decentralization. Whether or not this happens depends on developer support, but it’s absolutely possible and could even be implemented in frontend apps like Voyager or Thunder.

      The question isn’t whether consolidation is the only way to improve discussion efficiency—it’s whether it’s the best way. And given the risks of power concentration, it seems clear that a better solution lies in improving the tools rather than weakening decentralization.

      I stand by my position, but I’ll leave this discussion open for others to weigh in. Let’s see what the broader community thinks.

        • @[email protected]OPM
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          125 days ago

          No I don’t. Just wanted to say it’s possible and we should take that as inspiration.

          Also why does it matter how many users they have or an App? It’s still a working feature and I really support this.

          • @[email protected]
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            125 days ago

            It matters because this means that only 0.6% of the userbase (it’s even less, as Mbin also have a few hundreds users, but whatever) can use that feature.

            The 99.4% of the userbase is still going to experience what the other commenter has reported: https://feddit.org/comment/5567697 and that you choose to ignore

            As I mentioned, I’m in favor of more similar communities, more mods, more admins, and more decentralization.

            May I ask you why you’re not using a micro blogging Fediverse platform, like Mastodon or Sharkey? On these, decentralization is maximal, as every person post on their own to the general feed.

            Lemmy/Reddit format of communities/subreddits relies on people to collaborate at some point. The value of that format compared to microblogging is the crowd sourced curation (votes) and additional input (comments). Votes and comments require the posts to be created once, so that users can interact with it once.

            There are plenty of examples recently, but let’s take this one: https://feddit.nl/post/30955168 484 votes, 28 comments

            People only comment once on a given topic, so crossposting on similar communities splinters the conversation

            mods and admins significantly shape the culture of a community. Therefore, even similar communities can look very differently.

            What are the differences between

            Except that the first one is more active? I crosspost most of the content you post on the second to the first, you crosspost some of the content I post to the first to the second.