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    21 month ago

    Thats why we have laws against rape and murder but not against having kids, because that would be eugenics.

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      1 month ago

      “because that would be eugenics” is not an explanation. You’re just asserting that eugenics is bad, which is begging the question – this is a post about the ethics of eugenics. You can’t just come in and say “eugenics is bad because it’s eugenics.”

      Anyway, I don’t think anyone is calling China’s former One Child Policy eugenics.

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        1 month ago

        Thats because the one child policy was coerced by the IVF in order for China to survive during a period of economic isolation, more so the one child policy only applied to han Chinese, and many still choose to have children, it wasn’t a ban on having extra children, they where just heavily disincentivized and given access too birth control.

        Literally banning who can have sex would be eugenics yes

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          11 month ago

          I don’t really see a strong difference ultimately between “heavily disincentivizing” and banning. Heavy disincentivization basically means the rule only applies to poor people. If it’s eugenics, it’s probably still eugenics even when limited to the poor, since most eugenicists would broadly consider wealthy people to likely have good genes.

          Anyway, there are times when we should attempt to lower birth rates as a society. In my country it’s not needed, since the birth rate is so low.

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            11 month ago

            I don’t really see a strong difference ultimately between “heavily disincentivizing” and banning

            You dont see the difference between a tax break vs literally jailing people who have kids? Its a pretty big difference!

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              11 month ago

              Yeah, it’s a different implementation. One has an escape hatch for the wealthy; the other doesn’t.