• HubertManne
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    01 month ago

    I often wonder where we would be at if the hanging chads went the other way.

    • @[email protected]
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      01 month ago

      I wonder that, myself, but I am not at all sure how Al Gore would have handled the aftermath of 9/11. (I don’t mean the crisis itself, but rather the blame game that was sure to come afterwards).

      While Dubya was a big fat liar, we might have gotten some even worse Republican in 2004, and then Barack Obama would probably never have become President. (But it is possible he would stay in the Senate and be the current Democratic leader).

      No, the timeline shift I wonder about is what would have happened if Democrats let Bernie win in 2016, instead of being in the tank for Hillary. If Trump was never President, he would probably be in jail by now.

      • @[email protected]
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        01 month ago

        It doesn’t matter who the president is when the country is actually controlled by wealthy oligarchs. We cannot solve that problem by voting.

          • @[email protected]
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            01 month ago

            And stop saying sigh, Amazon and Bezos suck, but I simply cannot live without throwing my money at them. I tend to hate to be judgy about it, but I think the time has come to pass judgement, for people to put up or shut up. Yes, all corporations are bad. That means we should all be consuming less. But some corporations are definitely worse than others, and every single person who voluntarily gives them money is complicit. They have the power because we give it to them.

      • HubertManne
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        01 month ago

        I don’t think 9/11 would have been successful under him. The Clinton administration was well aware of the danger but the bush administration refused to talk to the outgoing administration. Heck the patriot act was only necessary because the bush administration was not doing its job and bringing together the information it received from various agencies. The patriot act was basically a work around against incompetent presidential administrations.