There’s a huge difference between the reasons for such a ban. This wasn’t a movie with political content antagonist to Lebanon government. This ban is probably to make a statement for both outside and inside the country. To show how normalized the violence against them is widespread in our media industry. But you can read in this action whatever you like… Sure…
Ps. Have you seen Waltz with Bashir? Hell of an animated movie.
Banning books, like banning movies, is a great way to admit publicly that your position is so weak you can’t tolerate any dissent. Let the power of your ideals stand on their own.
Upvoting for the edit. It’s rare to see people doing self crit and changing their position after having it explained to them why their initial position is wrong. I wish I saw it more often.
How about we don’t let Disney try to profit off a movie starring a Zionist in a country that just got invaded by the Zionist Entity?
Do you think the abstract concept of dissent is the only reason to censor something? Because be clear here, the film isn’t proposing dissent in Lebanon. It’s slop made for a quick bit of money to go on Disney’s big pile of money, and it stars a war criminal who worked for an agency that likes to kill Lebanese people . Yeah Gal Gadot dissents against the idea that Lebanon shouldn’t be sent exploding pagers
Yeah I guess ban and boycott mean different things to me, but you’re right. Functionally this is a boycott and I support boycotting this movie. Fair point.
“Fascism will die in the marketplace of ideas” has been conclusively disproven.
This is not because fascism is a strong idea, it’s because the marketplace of ideas (like most markets) ranges from “doesn’t work very well” to “rigged.”
Lol fascism got into power because there is a revolutionary mood in the air and the capitalists have spent a century banning the idea of socialism at every turn. I feel very confident that socialism would have become popular if there wasn’t an active effort to stymie it’s adoption by the masses.
You think Lebanon’s position against being invaded by Zionists and having their innocent civilians and children bombed to death is weak because they banned a movie?
Their position against being invaded is weak because they spent twenty years failing to keep Hezbollah from attacking Israel which is why they got invaded.
Israel has been a genocidal apartheid state inflicting unfathomable misery on the region for like 80 years and is currently indiscriminately bombing thousands of civilians in Lebanon as part of their genocidal ambitions. Damn wonder where all this animosity comes from.
You fought back! Now you can’t complain about genocide!
So a blanket ban of any books that acknowledge the existence of LGBTQ+ people and banning a single Disney movie for having a war criminal lead actress are exactly the same thing to you? You really can’t tell the difference?
Okay then, what criteria should I use for determing if someone committed a war crime? I assume the floor is considerably lower, unless you think compulsory service puts her on the level of Hitler.
I need you to understand that Mein Kampf is a banned book and so you are currently claiming the case against literal NSDAP Nazism is so weak it can’t tolerate dissent.
You need to either do some self crit and disentangle yourself from liberal idealism or get the fuck out of here.
Why are you repeating what I just told you as if you’re contradicting me? Mein Kampf is banned, and not because of any weakness in the case against it.
You know what’s funny? I came into this thread expecting exactly this take, it being lemm.ee, I just was NOT expecting it to be from a lemmy.ml account lol.
While I have no interest in this movie and I think Gal Godot sucks, banning movies is akin to banning books.
There’s a huge difference between the reasons for such a ban. This wasn’t a movie with political content antagonist to Lebanon government. This ban is probably to make a statement for both outside and inside the country. To show how normalized the violence against them is widespread in our media industry. But you can read in this action whatever you like… Sure…
Ps. Have you seen Waltz with Bashir? Hell of an animated movie.
Yeah, boycotting is a better word.
How about a general ban on Israeli products?
This is an American film with an Israeli actress.
They mean Jew.
I think they quite literally mean former IDF soldier, Gal Godot.
Redditors hate Jews and we got plenty of both. This will be interesting
it’s a remake of gal gadot and it has disney in it, it’s absolutely the best idea to ban it
Banning books, like banning movies, is a great way to admit publicly that your position is so weak you can’t tolerate any dissent. Let the power of your ideals stand on their own.
Upvoting for the edit. It’s rare to see people doing self crit and changing their position after having it explained to them why their initial position is wrong. I wish I saw it more often.
Except in this case, the thing being banned has no message they’re trying to repress. They’re targeting a person who’s in it.
Snow White promotes the insidious falsehood that apples are poison
Yeah sure just debate Nazis in the fReE mArKeTpLaCe Of IdEaS! I’m gonna end it there because what I have to say is much less civil.
How about we don’t let Disney try to profit off a movie starring a Zionist in a country that just got invaded by the Zionist Entity?
Do you think the abstract concept of dissent is the only reason to censor something? Because be clear here, the film isn’t proposing dissent in Lebanon. It’s slop made for a quick bit of money to go on Disney’s big pile of money, and it stars a war criminal who worked for an agency that likes to kill Lebanese people . Yeah Gal Gadot dissents against the idea that Lebanon shouldn’t be sent exploding pagers
Yeah I guess ban and boycott mean different things to me, but you’re right. Functionally this is a boycott and I support boycotting this movie. Fair point.
“Fascism will die in the marketplace of ideas” has been conclusively disproven.
This is not because fascism is a strong idea, it’s because the marketplace of ideas (like most markets) ranges from “doesn’t work very well” to “rigged.”
Lol fascism got into power because there is a revolutionary mood in the air and the capitalists have spent a century banning the idea of socialism at every turn. I feel very confident that socialism would have become popular if there wasn’t an active effort to stymie it’s adoption by the masses.
So yes the marketplace of ideas is rigged.
You think Lebanon’s position against being invaded by Zionists and having their innocent civilians and children bombed to death is weak because they banned a movie?
Their position against being invaded is weak because they spent twenty years failing to keep Hezbollah from attacking Israel which is why they got invaded.
Except that Hezbollah formed due to the invasion by Israelis in 1982 but I get it, you liberals refuse to open a history book for once in your lives.
We’re talking about the present conflict.
You motherfucking libs actually expect geopolitics to work on a basis of “no takesies backsies”
damn wonder where that came from. Just appeared out of nowhere. Can’t explain that shit at all.
It appeared after Hezbollah spent twenty years bombing Israel.
Jesus fuck dawg do you realize how stupid even your own framing sounds?
No. Because most people would agree that attacking someone means you can’t complain when you get attacked.
So incredibly stupid lmao
Israel has been a genocidal apartheid state inflicting unfathomable misery on the region for like 80 years and is currently indiscriminately bombing thousands of civilians in Lebanon as part of their genocidal ambitions. Damn wonder where all this animosity comes from.
You fought back! Now you can’t complain about genocide!
Do you not see the irony of that last question?
Do you just think, “Well the Jews are naturally evil.”
As opposed to their neighbors trying to exterminate them might feed into the hate embodied by the current Israeli government.
So a blanket ban of any books that acknowledge the existence of LGBTQ+ people and banning a single Disney movie for having a war criminal lead actress are exactly the same thing to you? You really can’t tell the difference?
What war crime was Gal Gadot convicted of?
Do you think Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal? What about Joe Biden or Donald Trump?
Yes. No. No.
Okay so you agree that you don’t need to be convicted of war crimes to be called a war criminal?
Yes, but you have still failed to say what should be the basis.
she is one of the strongest supporters of the Wehrmacht and their ongoing genocide, even after enthusiastically serving in it
also I’ve heard she’s an awful actor (not that I would know, I don’t watch capeshit). She’s bombed box offices across the planet
So, in answer to my question, she wasn’t.
Was Adolf Hitler convicted for the Holocaust?
Were slave owners in the US convicted for crimes against humanity?
If they weren’t, then I am powerless to do anything but defend their innocence. I am very smart.
Okay then, what criteria should I use for determing if someone committed a war crime? I assume the floor is considerably lower, unless you think compulsory service puts her on the level of Hitler.
first they came for the disney remakes starring war criminals or whatever, and there was no one left to speak
I need you to understand that Mein Kampf is a banned book and so you are currently claiming the case against literal NSDAP Nazism is so weak it can’t tolerate dissent.
You need to either do some self crit and disentangle yourself from liberal idealism or get the fuck out of here.
Mein Kampf actually isn’t banned in the US or most of the world. It’s banned in Germany for obvious reasons.
Why are you repeating what I just told you as if you’re contradicting me? Mein Kampf is banned, and not because of any weakness in the case against it.
You know what’s funny? I came into this thread expecting exactly this take, it being lemm.ee, I just was NOT expecting it to be from a lemmy.ml account lol.
What? Mein Kampf is not banned almost anywhere in the world barring few exceptions mostly regulating it’s copyright or printing new copies.