• @[email protected]
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    9 days ago

    Zoning sounds terrible until your next door neighbor starts running an auto repair shop out of his garage.

    “Mixed use” is also a thing. I know of plenty of examples here in the US, I have lived in one of them. New construction consisting of living space above retail is actually kinda trendy right now.

    Also if you live above a greasy diner expect cockroaches

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      09 days ago

      Zoning is a good tool used poorly. Restaurants and grocery stores being subject to zoning creates issues. My personal belief is neither should be subject to zoning (but still have the parking lots be.) Auto shops, manufacturing, and mining operation type things are examples of where zoning is good.

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      09 days ago

      On the flip side, you’re stuck in a peaceful quiet suburb that’s a mile or more from any business.

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      09 days ago

      I haven’t read it yet, but arbitrary lines is a very cool book about the subject, and the exact opposite of what you are saying. The author defends that zoning is the wrong way of going about things and proposes other ways of controlling this issue.

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      09 days ago

      Why is a next-door auto repair neighbour bad? Do you not have laws on noise?

      If you live above a proper restaurant expect no roaches ever, because they can’t afford for literally a single roach to be seen in their restaurant by their customers.

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        08 days ago

        You’ve never seen a cockroach in a restaurant? I’m guessing you live somewhere cold, because in warm places cockroaches are just a part of life. I’ll still avoid anyplace I’ve seen a cockroach, but it’s not like those places get shut down. They just need to up their pest control.

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          08 days ago

          You’ve never seen a cockroach in a restaurant?

          I have never seen a cockroach in a restaurant in my life. But then I live in Europe.

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      09 days ago

      FWIW, I used to take my car to an auto shop located in the middle of a residential neighborhood, next door to an ice cream and bait shop. It did not affect the neighbors in any way that I could see, and didn’t affect the property values.

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      09 days ago

      Unless they are a shitty mechanic… i see that as an easy way to get discounts on car repairs…

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      09 days ago

      Zoning sounds great until you want to start a small business on your property, and you have to spend years convincing several councils and review boards that a photography business is not going to destroy the neighborhood character… and then you need to pay for a traffic study to prove it won’t negatively impact parking or meaningfully increase car travel on the street. And if it manages to get approved, then some retired busybody with no life will complain at every town council meeting that it’s attracting a bad crowd, and there’s too many people around now.

      There is definitely a place for reasonable limits, but almost nowhere in the United States has that. People need to accept that neighborhoods change, and expecting them to be frozen in time is literally insane and fiscally irresponsible.

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      08 days ago

      Somehow works in the rest of the world? Maybe if americans weren’t so disconnected and socially retarded you wouldn’t have these issues.