So China has existed for 5000 years but America has only existed since white peoples decided to start a government? Or are you cool with Native Americans claiming 50,000 years?
We’re talking about the United States, not Americans. The people that created the United States were not Americans. They were Europeans. They didn’t begin to settle here until the 17th century. The Chinese didn’t immigrate to China to found the PRC.
It’s not obtuse to point out that it’s racist to say that what the Chinese had 5000 years ago was a nation but what the Incas or Cherokees, for instance, had was not.
A nation is defined by a collective identity just as much as it is the government. The Native Americans are not the United States.
You compared the establishment of the PRC to the existence of Chinese people. I did the same with the people in the United States. I’m being respectful of the cultural differences between the European colonialists and the Native Americans. How does that make me racist?
It was built by the Qin Dynasty, which despite being called “the first unified China” was a fraction of the size of modern China. And was built in part to keep people who are also now Chinese, and not just Mongols, out of “China”
And it also didn’t last, it was fractured whem that dynasty fell.
Other than distant genetics, they have as much in common with modern China as the Greek government does to the linage of Ptolemy.
I wonder who build that really big wall…
Must’ve been aliens
Are you implying that the PRC built the wall?
So China has existed for 5000 years but America has only existed since white peoples decided to start a government? Or are you cool with Native Americans claiming 50,000 years?
The Chinese people lived in China prior to the PRC. The same is not true for the European colonialists.
American people lived in America prior to Europeans too. That was my point.
We’re talking about the United States, not Americans. The people that created the United States were not Americans. They were Europeans. They didn’t begin to settle here until the 17th century. The Chinese didn’t immigrate to China to found the PRC.
No. We are talking about China and I asked a specific question. Now you are bordering on being racist.
You are being obtuse, and know that the natives in America are not the ones in political power.
It’s not obtuse to point out that it’s racist to say that what the Chinese had 5000 years ago was a nation but what the Incas or Cherokees, for instance, had was not.
A nation is defined by a collective identity just as much as it is the government. The Native Americans are not the United States.
You compared the establishment of the PRC to the existence of Chinese people. I did the same with the people in the United States. I’m being respectful of the cultural differences between the European colonialists and the Native Americans. How does that make me racist?
It was built by the Qin Dynasty, which despite being called “the first unified China” was a fraction of the size of modern China. And was built in part to keep people who are also now Chinese, and not just Mongols, out of “China”
And it also didn’t last, it was fractured whem that dynasty fell.
Other than distant genetics, they have as much in common with modern China as the Greek government does to the linage of Ptolemy.