• atro_city
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    1098 days ago

    These cars should be banned in Europe. If your car doesn’t fit into a parking spot, it’s too big.

    • Oyml
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      578 days ago

      They don’t even fit in the parking spaces in the United States. I don’t know how many times I’ve had to sit in the parking lot for 10 minutes waiting for some dipshit to figure out how to maneuver his monster vehicle into or out of a space.

      • @[email protected]
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        98 days ago

        Guess it depends on how you live. I’m over here like “how do you have spots that don’t fit trucks? Every other car on the road is that size”

        Context, I live in Texas.

        Also also, I’ve been to the Netherlands and those spots in towns are tight fits for a normal car. Even a large full size German sedan probably wouldn’t fit. But that’s fine because almost everyone parks outside of town and uses public transportation or walks or bikes. You basically can’t drive around in town. This truck driver is just an idiot.

        • @[email protected]
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          158 days ago

          Not so sure about that, given that I’m pretty sure there’s a full sized Mercedes in the back row, and what to me looks like a Volvo in the middle slot, facing the camera.

          • @[email protected]
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            48 days ago

            I’m all for banning pick-up trucks, but @neclimdul has a point. The Mercedes you point at in the back row is literally the smallest Mercedes (A-class) and the Volvo in front row is an older full-sized wagon, which isn’t big in todays standards. A “full size” today, is definitely closer to 5m or even a little over (BMW 5-series). A mid-sized like a C class or 3-series is 4,80. Cars have grown a lot over the years!

            But where @neclimdul makes a good point, if you take the largest sedans manufacturers offer, they won’t fit the spot either. For instance: Mercedes S-class is 5,20m long (for the regular version).

            Still, the pick-up trucks like pictured are way bigger, for reference a RAM is 5,80m. So in this example, if we’d parked a Mercedes S-class in the same spot, it will cross the line as well, but the tram would still have enough clearance to pass.

        • @[email protected]
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          37 days ago

          Second that. I drive a Seat Alhambra, and parking in Rotterdam is a pain in the whatever. We have turned to leave the car on the hotel parking lot and use the tram, which, incidentally, seems to be the only vehicle the cyclists actually respect, even when they basically ignore all signs and traffic lights.

      • @[email protected]
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        38 days ago

        Yea, I was going to say this. We have to park in the back of a lot with the tailgate over a curb to the truck fits into a space.

    • @[email protected]
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      378 days ago

      Owners of such cars should be required to take extra training about where they can operate them, restricting them like large commercial vehicles (which these try to be)

      Let them have them; don’t let them drive them in tight urban areas, don’t let them park in parking places that can’t fit them

      Australia is much like America with places designed for motor vehicles. So American light trucks fit here, but many of our carparks do not allow vehicles longer than 5m to enter

        • @[email protected]
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          27 days ago

          A brand new Ford Transit Custom is just over 5m, there’s probably a few station wagons that are the same.

      • @[email protected]
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        48 days ago

        One of the many points that prevent cybertrucks from European roads is actually the requirement for a commercial truckers licence to operate it.

    • @[email protected]
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      107 days ago

      Yeah this is the thing.

      If someone can make a case for actually needing the capabilities of this vehicle… fine. That doesn’t mean you can just park wherever you want and complain that the bays are too small though.

    • bitwolf
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      38 days ago

      They say everything is bigger in Texas. Apparently not the parking spaces. These ugly trucks don’t even fit in parking lots.

    • @[email protected]
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      -67 days ago

      They’re not a car, they’re a truck, and can do things no passenger vehicle can do.

      Trying to park a light truck in the middle of a city is entirely on the driver though.

      • @[email protected]
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        107 days ago

        The space in the back is smaller than the trunk a station wagon usually has. So all they can do is tow something, which any run off the mill SUV can also do. For the vast majority of actual work, we tend to use Sprinters in Europe. These trucks are completely useless here.

        • @[email protected]
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          -17 days ago

          Vehicles like this are typically a “one Tonne” pickup, meaning they can carry a metric tonne or more in the bed. They can also tow huge amounts, 4.5 tonne or more often.

          Whether the owner actually uses that capacity is another question, but they can do things no SUV or station wagon can.

          • @[email protected]
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            17 days ago

            The thing is that large vans can also carry all that stuff and they can lock it up, protect it from the elements, and access it more easily because the floor is lower than a truck bed. They can also carry a wider variety of things since the inside of a work van is much longer and has walls to support various items. The entire benefit of a truck bed compared to a van can be defeated easily by a laying down a tarp(say, if you’re bringing in gravel) except for if you’re trying to tow a fifth-wheel or have converted the truck to be a tow-truck. I guess you could make an argument for carrying a single, small hay bale but I c’mon that’s like an American saying they need forty-five guns in case the government goes crazy while actively electing the craziest government officials; it’s clear they don’t know what they talking about and just think they’re neat but can’t simply admit it.

            I watched coworkers here in Canada buy two F-150s after they attended a single track day for motorcycles. The coworker who raced regularly, though, drove a little Ford Transit and the coworker who had a small race team and actually built parts for motoGP teams had a Mercedes Metris. Watching people struggle to get a little Ninja 250 out of the F-150 was hilarious and getting my Ninja 1000, a couple hundred pounds heavier, into the Metris one time was super easy. They could have just bought a trailer like my dad did and which we towed with a Subaru Outback, later a VW Golf, and now a Subaru STi.

            Trucks are largely worthless and the people who buy them very rarely use them for anything they are the only option for, often using them for things they are, in fact, greatly ill-suited to handle.