Jack Dorsey, co-founder of Twitter (now X) and Square (now Block), sparked a weekend’s worth of debate around intellectual property, patents, and copyright, with a characteristically terse post declaring, “delete all IP law.”

X’s current owner Elon Musk quickly replied, “I agree.”

  • @[email protected]
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    It’ll affect it, but it won’t stop it. This is a good question to bring up though.

    I design medical devices. IP is incredibly important in this process to protect our R&D investment in the current system. If IP didn’t exist, we’d protect that through other means like obfuscation of function.

    Also if IP didn’t exist, I could design devices that are so much better at healing people. So much of what I do is restricted because someone else has 30 years left on what they patented.

    R&D is expensive. Just because you see what someone else did, doesn’t mean you can easily replicate it.

    In short: if your goal is pure profit, yeah removing IP probably hurts this a little. If your goal is producing the best product, then get rid of it.

    I think the best solution would be a much shorter exclusionary period for patents.

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      108 days ago

      Obfuscating how things work and trade secrets mean some knowledge is never shared. The ideal behind the patent system is that information is made public but protected for a limited time. The system has strayed from the ideal, but there is still a need for it.

      Patents in the US and most countries expire 20 years after filing or 17 years after issuing. It’s not 30 years.

    • @[email protected]
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      58 days ago

      Cory Doctorow has made a pretty convincing argument that in your real specifically, all designs should be open source. That way, if a company goes bankrupt or simply stops supporting a device, like (say) an implant that allows them to see, or a pacemaker, or whatever, they can pursue repairs without the help of the OEM.

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        Open source is effectively no different than public domain in this circumstance. You don’t have less rights

    • Ulrich
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      So much of what I do is restricted because someone else has 30 years left on what they patented.

      If they didn’t patent it, that technology never would have existed in the first place for you to steal from.

      I think the best solution would be a much shorter exclusionary period for patents.

      100% agreed on that account.

      In short: if your goal is pure profit, yeah removing IP probably hurts this a little

      “A little”? If there’s no IP you just pay a janitor or an employee a million bucks to send you all the information and documentation and you manufacture the product yourself and undercut the company actually engineering the product so they can never be profitable.

      Like, this all seems very obvious to me…

      • @[email protected]
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        18 days ago

        that technology never would have existed in the first place

        Oh gee, a wildly incorrect assumption

        • Ulrich
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          08 days ago

          Oh gee, a rational contradiction supported with evidence.

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        People made stuff before patents existed. In many cases there were certain people and groups that were sought out because they simply did things better than others who made the same things.

        Knowing how someone else makes something doesn’t mean you can make it as well as the other person. Making quality goods is the same as cooking meals, the people and techniques are far more important than the designs.

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          28 days ago

          That was fine before mass production made perfect copies possible on an industrial scale.

          You don’t need the person when you can copy the object and produce it at volume and scale because you already own the factories.

        • Ulrich
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          People made stuff before patents existed.

          People also didn’t make stuff before patents existed. That’s why they exist.

          Knowing how someone else makes something doesn’t mean you can make it as well as the other person.

          Not necessarily, but often you can. You also don’t have to, you just have to make it cheaper, which you can because you are benefitting from someone else’s investment.