• Refurbished Refurbisher
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    03 days ago

    In America at least, this is as a direct result of corporate media and money in politics both controlling the narrative. None of this was naturally occurring.

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      03 days ago

      Not that different in Germany. The biggest difference in the media landscape, difference, the pretty large public broadcasters aren’t really a difference, because their governing bodies and leadership positions are stuffed with (ex) politicians and their relatives.

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        Same thing here, but with basically every industry and not just news media. We call it the “revolving door” effect.

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          The revolving door effect is separate from large political parties’ influence on public broadcasters, but it exists, too. It, and many other forms of legalised corruption, have led to an erosion of trust in politicians and political institutions in which the Nazis of the AfD thrieve.

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            Over here, it’s a bit of the opposite, but also the same in some ways, where the newsmedia controls our politicians and populous (especially Fox News with the Republicans). Behind the scenes, there are almost definitely dealings between Fox News and the Republicans that isn’t public. Fox News spent a significant chunk of the past 4 years denying the outcome of the 2020 election for the benefit of Trump.

            It’s a half/half mix of our politicians being stupid/brainwashed by the newsmedia and also corrupt. I’m sure you’ve seen what some of our politicians have been spewing out of their mouths.

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              03 days ago

              It’s a bit more complex, but essentially the same. Corporate media control politicians who in turn control the public broadcasters.

              The German rough equivalent of Fox news, the Axel Springer publishing corporation, which runs the infamous Bild tabloid and multiple other media outlets, has been continuously campaigning for a reactionary cause since its founding shortly after WW2. They do set a lot of the political agenda by pretty much dictating the public discourse.

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                It’s a few different companies over here (Fox, Sinclair [who controls basically all local media nationwide, John Oliver did a good segment on them], Newsmax, One America News, CNN, MSNBC), but same result that the media controls the Overton Window.

                In 1987, America abolished the law that forced newsmedia corporations to cover the news in a specific way (which you can read about here). This has a massive negative effect on our media’s news coverage. It started to become just about ratings and profit.

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                  03 days ago

                  The German media landscape got liberalised in the 1980s, too, with private TV being legalised by a constitutional court verdict in 1981 and the first private TV station coming online in 1984. Private TV was from the start groomed by “conservative” politicians as a tool to further their agenda.

                  These days, the TV programme is mostly driven by market share, even the public broadcasters have jumped that bandwagon, which over time has lead to an overall decline in quality, as they are trying to emulate the private channels.

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                    I wonder if there’s a money trail that can be traced back to a single source for both the German and US (and probably others as well) media outlets to corporatize/liberalize at around the same time.

                    The laws here directly reflect the wishes of corporations, including the relealing of the Fairness Doctrine, and there is a money trail showing which politicians took money from who for their political campaigns.

                    The Heritage Foundation also played a big role in influencing policy during the Reagan administration. These are the same people who wrote Project 2025.