• bluGill
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    02 days ago

    Russia has nuclear bombs that can reach the US. While they have a lot of “red lines” that have turned out not to be, it seems likely that hitting Moscow would be a real red line and the end the world.

    Europe has the same ability to strike Russia that way, they don’t for similar reasons.

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      2 days ago

      Thank you for proving my point. The “end of the world” phrase was the cherry on top.

      Believe it or not, I have a measure of understanding of American attitudes, both from living in the US and having American who friends with views across the spectrum on this issue.

      A large ballistic strike on Moscow and SPB (at least 50 rockets, if not more) is exactly how you show the russians that you mean business.

      At this point, westerners typically use “you’re being emotional/unreasonable” or “I don’t want nuclear war” type excuses.

      This is all BS. Do you speak russian? Do you speak any other “local” languages? Have you ever lived in russia? Where? Can you provide 3 key bullet points for every decade of the 20th w.r.t russian empire/USSR/modern Russia?

      If you had any real knowledge of russian history you would so how in context “end of the world” rhetoric isn’t backed by reality (I am not just referring to 1962, other factors are important too).

      • @[email protected]
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        01 day ago

        You do understand that Ukraine regularly hits Moscow and has even hit the Kremlin?

        With drones. A balistic missile strike is different from a nuclear missile strike only in the warhead in the missile. Firing missiles that could potentially be nukes (from the Russian perspective) from a nucelar power (the USA) at their capital is one of the few things that might actually trigger a nuclear war. Not the idiotic Russia bluster about Ukraine being given access to slightly better weapons, but a genuine possibility.

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          Who said the ballistic missiles need to be launched from the US?

          Ukraine has already confirmed to have launched home made ballistic missiles at russia. Did anything happen?

          Ukraine has targeted russian long range russian warning radars that are supposed to notify of nuclear launches, has anything happened?

          Ukraine shot down russian strategic bombers that are part of their nuclear delivery capability, has anything happened?

      • @[email protected]
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        02 days ago

        Ukraine isn’t the US. Your post scripts is pointless and your main script lacks anything more compelling than “trust me bro”

          • @[email protected]
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            01 day ago

            No. You can’t. I didn’t have a post script or an assertion at all. I’ve only rejected yours for lack of evidence and asked you to provide absolutely any. You have thrice now failed to do so. Fuck off loser

            • Skiluros
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              1 day ago

              Thank you for proving my point about you not having any arguments.

              You come up with some end of the world scenario, fail to distinguish between genocidal imperialism and suicidal behaviour and then act all high and mighty.

              Get the fuck out of here you little shit.

                • Skiluros
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                  01 day ago

                  Fuck off man. You are a lazy, cowardly American.

                  You don’t even speak russian or Ukrainian. You wouldn’t be able to outline 3 simple bullet points about key developments in say 1930s USSR if your life depended on it.

                  And you are going to lecture me with your bullshit?

                  Stick to losing to Trump and his proto-fascists. That’s all you’re good for!

                  • @[email protected]
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                    Nah, see that’s the whole issue here. I’m not lecturing you. I asked you for evidence because as you say “I don’t speak Russian”. You responded by being a shithead and proving you have no actual argument and I was right to dismiss your assertion

                    All you’re doing is throwing a tantrum because you aren’t educated enough to form a coherent argument which is, as I said, fucking pathetic