The contempt Proton is showing for their users is astounding. They not only think people will fall for this transparent act of damage control, but they also have the gall to shift blame onto the users.
Go read the comments. Obvious bots are posting praise and many critical comments are being deleted by the moderators.
Yeah, already gave Mailbox.org a try via their free trial and it’s great. So, now I’m not switching back even if they clean up their act. Thanks Proton! Lmao
Just so we don’t forget, Mullvad is 1.000x worse, so if you leave Proton, don’t go there:
https://korben.info/en/mullvad-cofounder-funding-far-right.html
Migrate your stuff, cancel your subscriptions, be completely ready to be banned from your account when you then get a credit card chargeback from your bank.
That’s what I did, years ago when Andy Yen was praising fascists on social media.
Get that chargeback. Just be fully migrated away first because they WILL block your access to your account whem it goes through.
Read through the post and the comments. Most of the comments are people pointing this out for what it is - a sanctioned attempt by Proton (from someone who appears to be a personal friend of Yen) at changing the narrative. It doesn’t change my mind at all, and actually hardens me to the idea of moving.
A genuine post by a lower-level employee below was more interesting, but the core of it is: Yen goes or we go.
I don’t use proton services because I thought the community told me not to use them because they give up your information or something a few years ago.
They had to follow a lawful subpoena, it’s not like with ring where the police just ask and ring just sends your footage without consulting you.
Okay and that’s just with email right? And email is different from all other services?
Wow. They really don’t get their customer base
It blows my mind how stupid their leadership is.
So they’re openly admitting that they’re using Reddit for astroturfing now? I didn’t click the link because fuck reddit, but no doubt they have armies of shill accounts boosting their PR image. They probably even have reps inside PR to manage all of it, and might even be paying them for that privilege.
It’s hilarious how both Reddit and Proton keep digging deeper into the holes they created for themselves.
Reddit just sells bot access to advertisers. The whole thing now is instead of seo is ai search optimization. Which in reality is just a bunch of Israeli companies who use ai to AstroTurf posts for other companies many of which are political, or for PR companies. They also do product placement type stuff but that’s less interesting.
Basically if there’s a unique sentence on the internet and you Google something close to that sentence google will present it as fact, also google prefers to show latest search results so the idea is you just constantly flood the internet with similarly worded ai written articles, reddit bots, etc and you own the search result. They did it with the whole open ai hacked huggingface controversy, that was ran by a Israeli ad company that just shits out ai articles in mass to manipulate our search algorithms.
And you cant talk out against it, reddit, tiktok, etc all owned by Israel interest now so you get censored.
Basically GW from mgs
Some reddit employees do the same to their pile of shit. It’s easy to drink the coolaid from the inside, especially if you think it’ll help you get ahead.
If I had a VPN as good as Proton I’d switch to that and Tutamail in a heartbeat.
Ivpn is apparently really solid.
Seems like tuta is going the way of the slop code as well from what I’ve been seeing. Mailbox.org is topping my list for now. VPN hasn’t been decided yet. Everything else I’ll just self host on my vps behind wireguard.
Relevant Statement from Tuta on AI Code (and other stuff):
https://www.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/1ximsy2/comment/19ru7p9lepl34/This is where I was getting some info from.
https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/30/proton-mail-goes-full-ai-slop-tuta-starts-going-slop/
“Internal use is different because whoever is committing LLM-assisted code takes full responsibility for it and is therefore staking their reputation on that code being good. Git blame will also still show their name.”
So no external AI code but internal is fine apparently.
Well yes. Random people generating pull requests that they have no idea about IS different from a Tuta employee asking a Chatbot how to solve a specific problem.
Isn’t it ironic that proton used to be the go-to VPN to circumvent Reddit bans? Ever wonder why that shit stopped working??
Is that why i got shadowbanned!?
Probably.
Go read the comments? Why give them the patronage?
ThE CeO pRaIsInG FaScIsTs DoEsNT AfFeCt tHe PrOducT
Reddit is pointless now
Christ, who’s doing their damage control? The church of Scientology??
Maybe they’re using AI to write their damage control strategy lol
Hate to say it but even AI couldn’t fuck up this bad
If they were given permission then they were given a script as well, pos CEO can’t stop posing.
No comms professional would approve of them doing this, and no professional wrote that script. I’d put money on this coming direct from Yen or another executive.
