• Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    To me this is like reading that locks are now obsolete because somebody invented a way to unlock them just by touching them. On one hand it makes me angry that somebody would invent such a thing. On the other hand it means locks have always had this hidden weakness which would eventually be figured out, and now here we are. So what do we do next? I mean, in terms of things that might actually help?

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      6 days ago

      So what do we do next? I mean, in terms of things that might actually help?

      Become a society with strong critical thinking skills who values people based on reasoned takes based on experience and science over people who value rapid, loud appeals to emotion.

      One piece of that is recognizing that doing things like putting flat earthers up in high altitude planes or near space is a waste of resources that could’ve been spent doing something better.

      EDIT: that last paragraph was an incomplete thought. Individual flat earthers have done the whole scientific method thing, and proved themselves incorrect and stepped away from it. How do you handle the people that refuse to be convinced? If there’s no level evidence that a person will accept and they’re out in the forest commons chopping down trees to build a tower to whatever is on top of earth, how do you tolerate it at a societal level? It’s still an incomplete thought.

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      7 days ago

      Those, “your friend likes shitty product x” ads will now include a deepfake of your friend’s endorsement.

      To be honest, I personally would rather be nonconsentually deepfaked with a 2 inch penis than put into a conconsentual ad for a product I don’t endorse.

  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 days ago

    Surprised it wasn’t youtube. Sometimes the AI voice is good enough I don’t realize it’s an autodub, atleast untill I notice the mouth is moving wrong or the text they show is a different language.

    This would solve that basically, which is both cool and a bit scary, more scary if it is used in AR and in the real world.

    • Soup@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      I live in Québec. I’m anglophone but can speak French and do some things in French, so I also get Youtube ads in French and English. I saw an ad that show the same people speaking French and English, in places where it makes little sense for them to know French, and their accents are just…correct but it doesn’t line up?

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    8 days ago

    That’s not already patented?

    Anyway. Just means that now voices of authority are just voices (again). Some things about Victorian ideas of law and authority were good. Some bad, like that these things don’t extend to barbaric areas of the world, those are to make money selling stuff and growing cotton.

    This is in some sense feedback to radio, mass media and the internet, as devices of propaganda.

    Provided, of course, everyone knows that such things can be done, but honestly they already know.

  • frostypanda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    Great. You’re not going to be able to trust anything anymore. On the bright side as we light the world on fire and raze it to the ground, this will probably be used hostilely to hilarious effect on a world leader/leaders at some point.

    Soon, I think the only way to communicate is going to be through a combination of snail mail delivered in person (or sent via trusted means) and creative uses of morse code.

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    8 days ago

    On one hand, translating movies and shows would be a great use case. But we all know that’s not what thisll get used for.

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      8 days ago

      I have never understood why teanslation movies and tv shows would be so great, it works for kids shows, but adults can deal woth subtitles

      • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.uk
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        8 days ago

        My eight year old followed along for a three hour stage production of Spirited Away in Japanese, with subtitles projected above. So I guess technically supertitles. Point being, kids can handle subs just fine.

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        8 days ago

        A dubbed version of something is basically a warped parody of it. But dub fans get really defensive about it.

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          8 days ago

          Ah, but how about a dubbed version spoken by American robot voices, where the foreign actors uncannily mouth American words? Wouldn’t that be a joy and a gift to the world? Eventually we might even be able to replace all foreign actors with a young Harrison Ford.

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    8 days ago

    I don’t see this being any good for anyone.

    But I am really pissed off that this can be patented. Even looking at the patent itself doesn’t look like anything new, its a series of flow charts.

    I see nothing novel or patent worthy here at all.

    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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      8 days ago

      Oh, it could be good if used responsibly. But that is not what is going to happen, isn’t it?

      (real time translation and giving people a way of dodging the social stigma attached to speech impediments are fine. Making sure someone with a stuffed nose sounds normal on Video is fine too. It could also be used to modify in-game videos to reference actions made by players, reducing the need to store multiple variants of a scene!)

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      8 days ago

      I … see this being … good for anyone.

      … I am really [happy] that this can be patended. … Lookting at the patent itself it looks like [something] new, its a series of flow charts!

      I see [something] novel or patent worthy here … !

      [corrected by [Ad Usum Delphini [tm]]]

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    8 days ago

    Do you think Microslop can use this to help get out of being held accountable for directly profiting off of the Palestinian Genocide?

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      8 days ago

      The tech it self is “fine” it’s just any use of it that is basically always going to be a problem.

      You can’t make things proactively illegal because it could be used for illegal shit. Unless it can ONLY be used for illegal shit. And even then it’s iffy.

      Else you end up killing progress. It’s stupid, but there’s not a great solution.

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        8 days ago

        you can’t make things proactively illegal

        What? We literally do that all the time.

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        8 days ago

        I can see how this would be neat in places that dub a lot of their foreign media so lip/mouth movement actually fits the words spoken. It has always been a complete deal breaker for me with dubbed media because it instantly shatters my suspension of disbelief and makes it all feel like the shittiest amateur theater performance.

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          8 days ago

          I’d still prefer subtitles, since verbal is half the acting. And even tone can convey emotion that turning it into simply a visual one leads to missing half the actor’s performance.

          At that point it is better to watch dubbed animation.

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            8 days ago

            I prefer subtiles as well. But there are many countries that dub almost everything to their native language, and I think having the mouth actually follow the dubbed audio would definitely improve the experience. The dubbed versions in e.g. Germany have loads of voice acting in it so it fits the emotion and vibe of the scenes, so this would just improve that.

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              8 days ago

              I refuse to watch live action dubs. That is what piracy is for if a country refuses to provide the original source material.

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                8 days ago

                I mean, I agree I don’t watch them either because of the reason mentioned in my original comment. But I can still see the value this offers to all the people that do actually watch them.

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                  8 days ago

                  I’d personally put more value in pushing people out of their comfort zone towards watching entire performances done by the actors and learning to read subtitles quicker.

                  Kind of funny that I watched Dark in German, but if it were an english production German people would be watching it dubbed.