• ms.lane@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Pulaski > Crusher

    Every single day of the week.

    bbut she doesn’t like Data, the AI pretending to be a person!

    Edit before anyone @'s me with how the show saw him grow- let me ask you this-

    Do you consider a Huawei/UBtech robot running PanguLM - a person?

    Do you consider a Qwen3.8 instance - a person? Not just ‘like a person’ but a full fledged person like you’re considering Data? Because that’s all Data is - an llm with a body.

    • I mean, I get the joke, but data was absolutely not an llm with a body. The positronic brain was the entire point of the character, that it was able to learn and grow like biological people. Llms lack that, and even if the underlying programming was exactly the same, Data was still able to engage in self directed growth in a way they can’t because of his brain

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      11 days ago

      Do you consider a Qwen3.8 instance - a person? Not just ‘like a person’ but a full fledged person like you’re considering Data? Because that’s all Data is - an llm with a body.

      This is incorrect. Consciousness arises out of complexity. LLM’s and chatbots and our modern robots are not complex enough to be conscious. While modern philosophers and experts in AGI don’t have a solid answer on what we’re even talking about by ‘sapient’ or whatever fancy word people want to use to say ‘like us’, Data is unquestionably presented as being like us.

      And ‘like us’ in a way that not even the Big D’s computer is capable of.

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      10 days ago

      I’m with you regarding Pulaski vs. Crusher (Crusher is such a boring personality), but the rest ist bullshit and you missed the entire point of Data’s character.

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      8 days ago

      Sadly, my Autistic ass considers a lot of inanimate objects as “human”. I end up talking to them as if they had human emotions and feelings. I even feel guilty if I end up banging things or losing them entirely.

      Cars, computers, washing machines, gaming consoles, plants, cats, NPCs in video games, even LLMs…

      I would have liked to see Pulaski get more fleshed out. And try to round out her character, like the EMH.