• dreamy (she/her)@lemmy.mlOP
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    5 days ago

    I think I’ve seen you pop up a couple of times saying “The Democratic Party also murdered more Palestinians than the Republican Party”. What do you mean by that and what are the sources?

    You probably saw u/geneva_convenience say it before, not me.

    The figures I’ll provide here will be a severe undercount, because they’ll be from the Gaza Health Ministry’s verified numbers and thus will not include for example bodies trapped under rubble. It also will not include “non-violent” causes of death such as starvation and sickness.

    January 2025 - At least 47,354 Palestinians murdered. (This is when Biden left office)
    October 2026 - At least 74,494 Palestinians murdered. (27,140 killed since Trump took office)

    I didn’t think the US was really all that directly involved in the Palestinian conflict

    Then you should really educate yourself. You’re both calling the genocide a conflict and denying American involvement in it. It’s been three fucking years.

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      Do you seriously think these numbers prove anything? All these numbers say is that initial stages of the genocide were more intense and as Israel achieved more of its ethnic cleansing goals it slowed down. If Trump was in office before 2025, those numbers would not decrease. One would have to be really delusional to think Trump might have possibly slowed down the genocide in Gaza. He is a guy who makes AI videos of himself bombing Gaza and building resorts there. The fact remains previous democrat governments and Trump have supported Israel in this genocide just as much. There is atleast internally more people in democrats who oppose supporting Israel than there is in Republicans. But ofcourse if the issue is that Democrats are more willing to aid Ukraine than Trump, that should perhaps be your talking point rather than trying to prove Trump is better for Gaza which is funny.

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        Fam, death to the US lol. That’s the endgoal. Your shithole joke of a country going down the drain and hopefully dragging the imperial core with it

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          This is just another form of racism and extremism. Don’t expect people to prefer your extremism over other forms of extremism like western nationalism. They are one and the same and don’t deserve to exist in this world. Sucking up to billionaires or sucking up to dictators or sucking up to “omnipotent” leaders are just different faces of the same cringe.

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              You are not anti-fascists don’t flatter yourselves. Anti fascists are people organizing and participating in rallies against Trump. Not people who drool over him because of the possibility of bringing down US and turning a blind eye to all the atrocities he commits everywhere just because he is not supporting Ukraine as much as democrats. What you are doing is supporting fascism but in a hypocritical way.

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                  I did not swoon over a fascist leader who is a menace to the whole world. That should be considered atleast a basic requirement. I mean some people here can’t even see the absurdity of making fun of others for not realising atrocities committed by previous Democrat goverments and then try to craddle Trump.

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        “The actual numbers of dead Palestinians don’t matter to the question of who killed more, what matters is Drumpfs twitter posts!”

        You don’t care about Palestinian lives, you just care about decorum

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          3 days ago

          You either can’t comprehend what you read or are just here for agitation:

          If Trump was in office before 2025, those numbers would not decrease.