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☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlM to GenZedong@lemmygrad.ml · 2 年前

General Discussion Thread - Juche 113, Week 19

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General Discussion Thread - Juche 113, Week 19

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☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlM to GenZedong@lemmygrad.ml · 2 年前
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Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself at home. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is the weekly discussion thread.

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      I would love to just travel around the south pacific on a houseboat, visiting all these cool secluded little islands.

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        Hope that happens for you one day!

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    My local university had their own Palestine encampment, but after less than 24 hours it was already broken up by the cops in the middle of the night with excessive cop violence. I’m so fucking mad

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      It’s such a blatant display of what this country stands for: western genocidale supremacy. It didn’t even take them 1 whole day to violently break down a peaceful protest. A protest against GENOCIDE. Absolute shithole country.

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      There’s a new one at another location if it’s the uni I’m thinking of

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        Yup, was there yesterday

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          Me too haha

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    In a messed up way I find it funny that there is a very real possibility that the US will invade The Netherlands if Netanyahu gets to The Hague. All this talk about Russia being a threat only to get invaded by the US.

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    My football team won the national championship, so me and my friend went partying and now I’m a zombie 😭, only got home at like 5 am

    It was fun, VIVA AO SPORTING 💚

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      Same

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    Went to the university encampment yesterday, and holy shit it gives me so much hope. It was so well organized and everything was so well communicated. Makes me think a revolution is not so farfetched here as I though.

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      It is, isn’t it? Apart from crappy barricades lol, but not everyone is a carpenter. Unlimited support to everyone there ✊🏼

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      I am especially pleased with the requirements of proper PPE I am seeing. As long as we don’t let this get co-opted by wreckers or liberals who will try to push the anti-mask thing, I’m sure- I think there’s a genuine momentum here. So much organizing in the west has been neglectful of this, seeing it be actually enforced and adhered to is wonderful.

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    I hope you all have a nice week :D

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        Capybara

        • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlOPM
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          why is it just a still image smh

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      Fingers crossed. You too! (Now gimme blurry cat!)

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        cat

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          Not blurry, but extra adorable 🥰

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            I had a blurry one but share was disabled

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              That’s ok, I enjoyed it anyway, blurry cat videos are hard to find, all my stuff is pictures.

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        cats

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          👍

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      🫡❤️

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          😊👍🏼

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      You too Oppo, our great supreme leader!

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        pig

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          once again, our supreme leader has blessed us with cute videos

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      Hope you have a nice week as well!

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        bunny

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          Truly aspirational!

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      Well given I dont plan on dealing with glue, I should

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        Husky (huskies are the best dog)

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      And all the nice weeks to you as well!

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        hamster

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          Yum! Er, cute!

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      You too oppo :D

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        Bird

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          So impressive 😳😳😳

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      Removed by mod

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        Squirrel

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    Victory day is coming, comrades. Brace yourselves for revisionism, double genocide and a whole lot of nazi whitewash

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    We have arrived at the stage of the year in which it is either too cold for a t shirt or too hot for a sweater, combined with lethal humidity (rain), causing a constant state of discomfort and sweat.

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      and to think I’ve still been wearing my scarf and pea coat this week; I prolly should switch now huh

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    There was another demonstration today. We walked from the campus, where there was a ton of riot police already, to Spui square. There we were met by police violence. Riot police with their armored cars and police dogs. But we managed to deescalate by sitting down. I feel like we are getting calmer in front of a police presence. After a while we dispersed away from where the police was standing, but some people stayed on the square.

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      I saw pics on Reddit of a few protesters in the Netherlands bleeding from the beatings, stay safe and goodluck against your dictatorship regime 🙏

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        Thank you. There’s a protest in front of the city council building tomorrow. Hope I can be there.

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    For several days now I have been making instagram comments in various left wing related pages that have gotten thousands of likes in total now. I managed to get lots of following requests and now I am contemplating becoming a left wing Instagram influencer.

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      DO IT 💯💯💯🗣️🗣️🗣️

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      If I had an Instagram account I would follow you

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        Same

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          Same.

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      But why Instagram?

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        Idk I have a personal instagram and I follow a lot of news and politic related pages. I saw a lot of right wing talk in the comments and I wanted to push back a bit and it seems to be working.

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          I guess it does have a bit more reach than others like TikTok. I’d worry that it’s compromised though and your stuff is likely to be hidden and censored. But I suppose you could just do several apps with the same content?

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    I finally broke down today about Palestine. I was angry already, especially since october 7th. But after what happened yesterday and after watching a video about october 7th and the fake crimes Israel accused Palestine of, I finally cried. Specifically after pictures were shown in the video of Palestinians who have been killed. I can’t stop crying.

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    The man vs bear discussion rustled some feathers over on Reddit lmao

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      Women: Yeah we feel so unsafe in this society that we would rather pick a wild animal than a man

      Men: DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING STUPID YOU ARE DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND STATISTICS WHY DO YOU HATE ALL MEN REEEEE

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        Have these reddiors considered “but it’s funny”

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      There’s even been some rustling on hexbear about this too. You can take the redditor out of the man, but you can’t take the man out of the redditor, lol.

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        Do you have a link? I wanna read it but never visited the site.

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          Yes, I consider hexbear sort of the sister instance to grad, so I’m also over there frequently. It started with this thread and then later spilled over into another one.

          I feel very bad for dirt_owl, the OP of both threads, and all the other women/gnc users posting their thoughts.

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            Well that was an interesting read to say the least. Can’t wrap my head around how some men see this and think: how can I make myself the victim here.

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              I was around for both threads being live, and some of those deleted comments, oof. I am happy that at least the admins were snappy about it. It’s nice when moderation systems aren’t just automated and used to tell people to off themselves like some other places I know…

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            I feel like if the discussion happened on Lemmygrad it would’ve been worse ngl

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              Maybe. One thing I know is that even “left” men are still men. The bar is underground for me. At least Lemmygrad doesn’t have its origins in a community surrounding an edgy podcast (yes, sorry, I’m a hater). I lurked in the old r/cth days and I can’t say I’m surprised at all.

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                I found out recently that I was banned from the entire instance. It made my day, I can’t stand that shit humour and the same tired ancient in-“jokes”.

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              Really? Why’d you think that? (Honest question)

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    What is wrong with football fans? It seems that lately the vast majority tend to be immensely reactionary and racist. Isn’t this supposed to be the peoples sport?

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      I think that at least in Europe it reflects a part of society that is becoming increasingly right wing. Football used to be a people’s sport but as time went on it became a household thing mostly attached to patriarchal views. Football is ‘supposed to be for men’ after all. It is no surprise that men, in turn, tend to hold on to this bastion of manliness. And with everything in society, you have these layers to this issue.

      Your average football fan may be open to change, however slow it may be. I personally have seen the demographic in my team’s stadium evolve over time. More women and POC are now finding their way to the matches, for example. Not everyone is bothered by the captain wearing a rainbow band, or with a gay supporting group being founded.

      However, there are also highly reactionary fans and they are often the loudest fans in the ultras section. These same ultras sections are often filled with outcast type of people and often right wing minded, young men find their way into these parts. And with them come these views of glorifying violence, defending your own people, etc. This is what happens when you have a people’s sport, strip it from any people’s ideology and turn it into a multi billion euro soulles industry. My team used to be a factory workers’ team but nothing remains of that. It’s just a regional team now. A multi million euro team, with the sole purpose of generating profit. The fans have no say in it.

      Wherever patriarchal, violent, status quo ideologies are upheld and wherever they face no confrontation, they will flourish.

      But times are changing. Women’s football is coming up and they are much more based imo. Gay people in football still have a long way to go but at least it is talked about today. And there are still lots of left wing clubs to be found.

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        I wonder if football culture in the US is any better, as from what I know, football (soccer) is considered more often to be a sport for women, particularly young girls. Is football culture there less right wing and toxic?

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          Surprisingly yes, the fans are less macho and more left leaning

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    Liberals will burn down your house, then gaslight you into thinking it was your fault.

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      Yeah, though two notes:

      1. “Crisis of faith” is pretty uncomfortable in the context, really sounded like anticommunist high on their propganda (specifically really common take that communism is a religion)
      2. Even ignoring point 1, it seem like the usual bad faith question to own the commies, so mod was right to boot this out.
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