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I’ve been looking at phones lately and I’ve seen this company called Enough from their YouTube kickstarter video. It’s them and SLEKE (maker of OdesseyOS) working on building a nice size phone. I’m thinking of supporting their kickstarter because I am tired of these humongous phablets, and I can’t stand on how they feel in my hand when holding them.
The phone has everything I want but I am really wondering if the bootloader will be unlockable.
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Some important edits that should be added; (after looking on Enough’s website and kickstarter)
- No unlockable bootloader
- No sideloading
- On Enough’s website, storage is expandable by MicroSD or that same space is using a physical SIM card and you have the option for eSIM
- No headphone jack, but a USBC to 3.5mm converter is given if you do the kickstarter
- Stock android or OdessyOS only (from SLEKE); no flashing capabilities at all
- Replaceable battery
- Price of phone from kickstarter:
- Super Early bird price: $399 USD (sold out)
- Early bird: $449 USD
- Kickstarter special; $499 USD
- Retail price after campaign: $599 USD
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5.3 inches is not a small phone
Are there any older smaller phones that can be flashed to more modern Android versions?
I’m blindly trying the upcoming Commode phone out. It should be small enough and it runs on Sailfish, not Android. For privacy and security, that’s of course a complete wild card and could be great or complete shit for both.
I’m hoping the Sailfish core devs have 24/7 LLMs churning on looking for and fixing security problems. Practically the only way a small team like theirs could survive in 2026-27.
My favorite smartphone size was sony xperia z1 mini And favorite size of dumb phone - nokia 3100
I wish I was able to experience a Nokia, they’re such cool looking phones, but Apple pushed everyone out of the US market when they came along
Android? Locked? No thanks, never again…
what happened to #7?
WHY WAS #7 DISAPPEARED? WHAT WAS HIS OFFENSE, ENJOYING A SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL?!
It’s the hidden feature
🤣 no, that was by accident. I was trying to create a spacing but it still listed it as a numbered list.
Small is the new big.
Small, if true!
Hey you might like this while you wait
https://m.gsmarena.com/cubot_pocket-12320.php
About $150 on eBay etc
It dosent support most of the US 4g bands, unfortunatly.
Ah, sorry. My bad.
I’ve been considering this one myself but it’s a bit funky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTmbxHQRSZ4
Dunno what your bands are there but the spec sheet has B1, B3, B5, B7, B8, B20, B28, B34, B38, B39, B40 and B41.
Might be more US friendly version? If not, I know the folks over on XDA forum tend to flash custom firmware with these.
Dam, not even close. Are band size is so small .
We have here 2,4,5,12,13,14,66,71. 13 and 71 are critical for rural coverage.
Hmm. I think the issue with all these phones is that the modems can support those bands just fine but they’re generally tuned for Asian and European markets. Predominantly because those sorts of phones sell en mass there, maybe.
For example, I have a duoquin F22 pro (think modern Nokia). I know that folks over on XDA have flashed CFW to region unlock them for US.
You might be able to find what you want (the Cubots sound like a near match) quite cheaply but you’ll have to check XDA for CFWs first. Quite a few of these phones ship with unlocked bootloaders and AOSP by default so they are pretty easy to tinker with.
Else… How do you feel about the JellyStar?
I also tried to look up on where to buy the Duolingo F22 Pro, I couldn’t find it anywhere on where to buy i, but I know you can use it here.
I had one but the software was ass. I only had it for 3 months before recycling it. Screen is way too small, debugging it made it hella glitchy, there’s not really a true custom rom installation for it, and launching most apps made it buggy. I got so tired of it. Then I started reading about Unihertz’s track record of their devices receiving poor software and customer support, so I decided to not deal with that company ever again.
when it comes to small screens like that, the smallest I’ll do is close to 4.3-4.5 inches. 3 is way to small.
Yeah, that was my feeling on it too. Cute, but too itty bitty. I already have an android flip phone if I want that form factor.
It sounds like the Cubots would be ideal for you…IF you can find evidence of CFW unlocking your regional bands.
Sorry dude. Chin up - they nuked 3G here entirely. Which means none of the good, old phones work at all. I have a Nokia N95 that’s awesome but I can’t do squat with it as a phone any more.
Yeah…. A lot of the older flip and small banana like phones are already out of the question cause we no longer have 2G/3G.
The only older flip phone we can use here (were you can still get a signal of course) is the CAT S 22, but the price on that one jumps so much, and personally it’s to bulky for me.
Or you can get the modern TCL flip 5g (or the older ones) but who in 2026 uses Kai0S? I wouldn’t be able to run anything on that phone, there’s no app nor security support with KaiOS.
if anyone here is fine with Android 8 then i can reccomend https://shop.shift.eco/shift5me as a small repairable phone with replaceable battery and headphone jack for like 200€.
The ressources are quite limited and it does not have NFC but if its just a phone for simple tasks it can be enough (check if your banking app supports Android 8!)Locked bootloader is a no-go for me, I’m 100% on the GrapheneOS train now. But I do hope that smaller phones make some kind of comeback, I also hate how big they’ve gotten over the years.
What’s the smallest graphene phone one can get ?
A non-XL pixel, unfortunately. They’re not huge, but they’re certainly not small.
i used a 7a because it was the smallest and not old. 8a isn’t a lot bigger.
Still bigger than my old zenfone–that also had a headphone jack. Small is good
God I hope not.
One of the reasons I went with a Samsung Fold 7 instead of a Fold 6 was because the the screen was bigger. Bigger, higher resolution display = more screen real estate. Honestly I wish the inner screen was 1-2" bigger. (But no I don’t want a tri-fold cause I’ll break it).
FWIW, I use a 65" LG OLED as a monitor and I regret not going with an 80" instead. Screens can never be big enough for me. I used to own a projector for a giant 120" image, but once you go OLED, you don’t go back.
This phone is just for people who dont want those big screens, i get it, you do you, and everyone has their own preferences, but i really hate carrying these phones in my pocket and i gotta worry about it falling out or getting stolen.
Why don’t you just carry around your 65" TV instead?
Why don’t you just carry around your 65" TV instead?
Cause the battery life sucks.
😅
Don’t be a jackass. You know the reason why.
I don’t understand. Bigger, higher resolution display = more screen real estate?
You’re annoying. Go away.
😅
It’s not for everyone but I’ve switched to a Keyphone Hybrid. It has a removable battery, headphone jack, physical keyboard and de-googled OS.
It’s a “dumb phone” but they’re continuing to develop for it and are responsive to feedback. I love it because it’s the size of an iPhone Mini and it does what I need it to do without the distractions.
I have my old smartphone still that I use around the house or on WiFi similar to how many use a full size tablet.
Ive looked at that phone before and seriously considered it but at its price point of 400 USD, plus extra for a better camera and different keyboard plus you cant download apps (yes i know its a dumbphone) i decided to pass on that one.
I get that. I was weighing the Keyphone, Sidephone and Clicks Communicator. I’d have maybe gone with the Clicks but I waited too long and the price jumped up quite a bit.
I liked the Sidephone but the battery was smaller and non-replaceable, no headphone jack and no eSIM.
For me, since I was craving the phone style of my youth, the Keyphone was the clear winner but it’s just nice to see these alternative phone types in the market.
Locked bootloader, no headphone jack, dealing with a kickstarter. I’d absolutely risk the last one for the first two.
They don’t seem to understand what people actually want from phones.
The only small phone ive seen that is getting the attention it deserves is the Mudita Kompakt. Ive been paying attention to all the software updates and they look really good, plus you can sideload. Its a minimalistic e ink phone but it has way more features than the Enough Phone.
if you need a really small phone which is modern (4g) I suggest the latest Nokia ( don’t remember the number ), you will not get distracted.
Locked bootloader means it’s a pass, unfortunately.
