Finally. Single click to open a file/directory is the first feature that I disable on a fresh system.
I personally much prefer single click but I guess as a default double click is good since it’s like that on most systems
These are awesome changes. Thank goodness I have one less thing to change on any given install.
I get why they’re doing it, so it’s not a big deal for me as long as I can still use single click to open folders.
That being said, double click always seemed like a weird “hack” to use what is essentially the main function of the left click, no? As in, the primary thing I want to do when left clicking something is to go to that thing. Go to that folder, go to that link and go to (open) that application. “Selecting” is not the main action I use so I’ve always felt weird when “selecting” gets what is essentially the main function of the mouse, the left click.
I am on the opposite side. Selection feels absolutely like the primary function, with opening a thing being secondary. If nothing else, because it’s super easy to click the wrong thing and I don’t want to be punished for it. Also, I want to review my options before deciding what to click, and selecting them first helps me stay focused on one thing at a time for a moment. I also often select text I’m reading in a webpage. Helps my reading comprehension
My parents found single-click behavior less confusing. It’s how everything works on their phones and in web browsers.
Yeah. I also found it massively helpful to tell grandparents to just click on things. Instead of 3 times a day teaching them about the differences between everything and if they want a single left click, a double-click or a right click. And that a double right-click wouldn’t do anything useful at all.
Fun times :-D
My dad (early 60s) double-clicks web links as if they were folders. I stopped groaning ages ago lol
LESS GO, I finally don’t have to change that setting every time I use KDE
Well, now I will start changing this setting every time
Personally, I disable it first thing after installing and I think it’s easier this way for those who come from Windows. Those who still prefer the single click, can easily enable it again. Not a big deal.
More like for anybody coming from Windows, Mac or 90% of other DEs
Plasma 6 is really shaping up to be quite a nice overhaul of the system.
I’m a Gnome user where double click is default, but this is a really terrible decision. It shouldn’t be default in Gnome either. Who cares how it is in Windows, Windows is bad.
Oh Noooooooo! Why change a sane default? It is like… we (the developed world) also don’t change back to measuring distances with our arms and legs just to cater for american people and just because there are a lot of them… Or our body weight in stones.
What’s next? Changing LibreOffice’s file format every few years and make it impossible to gather sane log data and fix your issues yourself, so that it feels more like ‘home’ for the windows users?
How are you even supposed to select files and folders in single-click? The tiny little + box that’s very easy to miss?
I usually drag a selection. It kind of rare that I want to select a single file and just select it and not go ahead and simultaneously open a context menu with the right mouse button.
That or holding ctrl. Or dragging and selecting with a box.
Even on windows I mostly do ctrl + left click. If I’m selecting files I’m most likely going to copy/cut/paste them, so I’m most likely going to have my other hand on the keyboard anyway
Guess enough Windows users are coming over and they’re getting confused/frustrated by the old mouse click behavior.
Is this an historical thing? I was really confused when I started using KDE.
I don’t believe so. In KDE3 it was double click IIRC then it changed with the single click during the web mania UI when people suddenly wanted the big unification for everything: phones, fridges, tablets, supercomputers.
Like a lot of other people mention, this is the first thing I flip in plasma too. A mouse with a pointer is just different from a tactile interface.
Honestly, if that is the case, kudos to them. No DE should work against the user, and that doesn’t mean the DE is dumbed down.
Btw, for those who think it’s natural to select things by left clicking on them, try pressing
spacein dolphin to activate the “selection mode”.Big mistake in my opinion. Coming from Windows, it took me only one day to get comfortable with single click and now I don’t want to miss it anymore.
I reckon they looked at their telemetry and chose the setting most people have which has the side effect of being more familiar to Windows refugees.
Telemetry wasn’t a factor iirc. The biggest reasons for this change were that
- defaults like this (that only apply to new installations) should make life easy for newcomers, not for the existing users. Those users come from Windows, MacOS or other Linux DEs, which all use double click
- it already is the default in pretty much all popular distros. KUbuntu, Fedora, Manjaro, SteamOS
and I think also OpenSuseare double click by default
Meh. Telemetry should be the way to tell if it’s really making it easier or worse for newcomers. Why collect telemetry at all if you’re not going to use it anyways?
And if the distros are already having it as a default, it’s even worse. We’re setting it per default because it’s set as the default.
Why collect telemetry at all if you’re not going to use it anyways?
Because we’re sadly not collecting enough and actually useful telemetry. I think we know from telemetry that a big majority has double click set, but we don’t know why (default setting vs user chose it explicitly).
And we can’t easily add such things without breaking user trust. We need a new telemetry system that’s more useful and extendable, but doing that is a lot of effort that noone has put in yet.
And if the distros are already having it as a default, it’s even worse. We’re setting it per default because it’s set as the default.
No, we’re setting it as a default because a bunch of people that are closer to the users than us decided to deviate from the upstream default. That’s a super clear sign that we’re doing it wrong
I’ve been a happy customer since 1.2. I even stuck with it through 4.0 which was a little traumatic 8) I like choice - lots of it and KDE delivers that in spades.
The minimum screen brightness is now always 1, and the minimum keyboard brightness is now always 0, ensuring that the screen backlight never turns off completely at minimum brightness, while the keyboard backlight always does
That’s cool, but is it still possible to easily switch off the screen? For laptops, that’s useful from time to time, when you don’t want to close the lid and lock it, but you’re waiting for a long running operation or just listening to music, and want to save battery power.
I think the best way would be that when long pressing the brightness lowering key, it stops lowering it at 1% as with this change, but pressing it once more would make it 0.Also, I wasn’t able to keep up with recent changes. Does anyone know if it’s possible now to customize the rounded corners of windows and panels?
Laptops usually have a dedicated key to turn off the screen, no?
Mine doesn’t, but even if it would have, most of the original special keys don’t work in Linux. It’s quite annoying because I don’t have F keys and Home-PageUp and such, they were accessible with key combinations with the original OS.
On most laptops that do that, there’s a BIOS setting that fixes it, the F keys at least. On HP’s, you can set whether you want the top row to act as F keys or “media” keys. Any combo that uses the Fn key should work in Linux, and you can set your own hot-keys/shortcuts in Linux as well.
