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today I fucking learned Roku is now a Murdoch Box.
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My nephew has a Roku in his bedroom for the screen saver. He’s severely autistic. He is not good with change. Losing those damn fish will be a HUGE problem in that house.
disconnect it from internet?
It already got the update and threw the warning still flip by itself. I’m going to try and cavenga an old Pi or mini pc to run the OG screensaver version for him
“still flip by itself”, I think I understand that.
Cavenga?
Scavenge, I think. I had to think hard on it.
Bless you.
Odroid-c4 with LineageOS has been my favorite streaming box. Just need to get a wireless remote with a dongle (non-bluetooth).
CEOs are the dumbest pieces of shit on the planet. Roughly could have set up their own fish tank and recorded it for 10k and I’m inflating that number by about 9k. Then they would have owned it and paid no license at all
WTF a screensaver on a TV that requires money? Is this like a free money glitch for doing nothing? Just bundle a few free images, buy them at a reasonable price (not $80k/year) or tell your company photographer to take them.
Also how often do you see a screensaver on a TV: Short answer almost never because a) you’re watching stuff or b) you turn the device off
Also who buys this Roku trash in the first place? Apple users? Just plugin a laptop/PC via HDMI & Co or slap some Android TV device/Raspberry with Kodi behind the TV.
Also who buys this Roku trash in the first place? Apple users? Just plugin a laptop/PC via HDMI & Co or slap some Android/Linux TV device/Raspberry with Kodi behind the TV.
Another lemmy user overestimating people’s tech-savviness
overestimating people’s tech-savviness
> Be literally too stupid to setup your TV > TV removes your screensaver > TV spys on you > TV steals your soul > Best I can do is cry around on social media0 pity for those self harming people
Seriously! My wife is SO stupid! She can’t even setup a TV to connect to a computer. I can’t believe she refuses to learn how technology works after her 12 hour shifts at the hospital. Why are some people so focused on anything other than learning technology and then maintaining a setup that companies actively try to make more difficult to use? What a mindless consumer! /s
Seriously an immature take. I think its easy, and am happy to do it for her. Not everyone has that privilege, and they should be able to complain online about anti-consumer practices without the friendly fire.
eta: also, SELF-harming?? Pretty obvious the harm is coming directly from companies. If companies are going to say they “want to maintain a relationship with our customers”, we can at least acknowledge that it’s an abusive one and not victim blame lol
I was in a meeting recently and the smart tv had a screensaver showing a 1950’s-esque street scene sidescrolling and showing what looked like at least one text ad in the bacground.
The new OOB experience.
Wait, is it Fox Disney, or Fox News?
I thought NewsCorp/Murdoch doesn’t have ownership of MOST of Fox anymore, just Business, Sports, and News.
Well, this explains it.
I changed the screensaver to the fish tank because the default cityscape on has all those stupid ads plugged in.
The other day, it had a banner that said the fishtank was being removed. I couldn’t figure out why.
I guess I will have to find a new streaming box? Sheesh.
I had long ago blocked all telemetry at my edge network box for the whole house. Now I presume it will not be sufficient.
I went all in on Roku years ago because it worked so well with Plex. The menus and remotes were consistent across all the TVs, so nobody had to learn anything new. Now Fox will probably turn it into another advertising platform. This sucks.
Roku used to be the safe haven from ecosystem lockin.
Now with free-my-tv and other projects, this can be resolved.
Slop btw
I think that makes a bit of a dilemma. Which is better slop software with quality issues or proprietary closed source which could be running any number of malicious processes?
Very true. Good thinking.
The problem is I don’t know the answer! It’s a case by case issue that takes real effort to resolve each time.
Yep, samesies.
My hate for slop battles the usefulness of some of the products.
Any not terrible alternatives that my parents will actually be able to use without me?
Reset the TV, don’t choose Internet during setup. Connect something like an AppleTV. In Roku settings, set the TV to automatically switch to the AppleTV on power up. The remote for the AppleTV box can be used to power on/off the tv and control volume.
Google tv streamer 4k is pretty good but recently went up in price due to RAM shortages
Not sure about parents but you could try building odroid with lineage os and rii i25 remote
Yeah, the thing about parents in this case is that if the solutions isn’t easy as fuck then they’re going to give up immediately and go get whatevers at best buy.
Onn Android boxes work well for my parents. As long as you install Projectivy launcher to get rid of ads and clean up the UI. I make it so there are three app icons and nothing else on the screen, then it’s easy to understand and navigate.
It’s pricey but I have heard good things about Apple TV. I think someone else in the thread has a list of FOSS alternatives but you’d still have to set them up.
The used ones aren’t too expensive and they last forever. But I have found the AppleTV to be kinda crappy for old people because it constantly updates and moves things around and interrupts what you wanted to do with some kind of screen after updates telling you some bullshit or asking you some bullshit and that can scare old people.
But it’s still worth it, because there aren’t any fucking ads.
Eh, they should pitch it as promoting brain elasticity and combating dementia. There is evidence of new situations and/or problem solving is helpful in old age. :]
Piracy is the only moral choice when it comes to large services
Last month I took my Roku offline but let it connect to LAN so the Jellyfin app would work (for now until it gets too out of date probably). I knew Fox would fuck things up somehow and I was right sooner than expected.
As an aside, it’s still connected to my pihole and for about a week it tried to send logging data to 2 different websites every 3 seconds for around a week. It was funny seeing my blocked percentage at 91.5%, even funnier that it’s programmed to give up.
Last time I put a Roku behind DNS filtering it just started spamming it’s logging server because it couldn’t make contact. I ended up just letting it through instead of going through the hassle of spoofing a response to make it shut up.
Why do that? It’s not hurting anything.
Pi-hole at the time had a default limit of 1000 requests per minute before it would time-out requests from all clients for 60 seconds and I didn’t know how to change that. I’m using AGH now though.
It probably gives up only not to accidentally DDOS their own telemetry servers
Or maybe it’s just a reaally slow exponential backoff
Linear backoff. Add one millisecond per retry.
Roku has been a poster child of enshittification for a long time. I struggle to think of any ways they could get worse. But I’m sure they’ll think of something.
Same fishtank screensaver as you might remember from the early 00s, in case you’re wondering.
I was curious what the reason was behind this. As good of time as any to setup some different streaming sticks/machines I guess. Anyone have any suggestions? FOSS is preferred.
I know this goes against the fediverse but I pirate my shit via an outsourced (paid) plex provider [gasp] on an Apple TV box. The device itself is reliable and has no ads and has a very high spouse approval factor.
Depends on your needs. If you just stream via Jellyfin/Plex I’d recommend Kodi+Linux on a raspberry pi or something. There are premade distributions like OSMC for this niche. If you need Netflix/Disney+ etc you’re basically fucked on the FOSS front, the only option I know is either LineageOS’s TV version though that isn’t as well supported as the mobile version and there are some DRM shenanigans or just using Linux with a keyboard+mouse combo and a browser, though you will be limited by resolution. On the non FOSS front I have heard good things about the NVIDIA shield though that is expensive, or using Windows with the native streaming apps and a frontend (eg Steam Big Picture).
Pi devices have gotten so expensive due to RAM shortages you’re probably much better off repurposing any of hardware you have or can grab from a secondhand place.
