“In hindsight, it was a mistake for SpaceX to send (Ukraine) thousands of free Starlink dishes and millions of dollars a month in free service at the beginning of the war,” the post reads.

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  • kreskin@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    congress should just nationalize starlink (and spacex) if our defense posture depends on it. No company exec should be able to influence our foreign policy at his whim. The company will operate just fine without Musk, if not better.

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      You have an unsubscribe link? The shit I get doesn’t even have an unsubscribe button and comes from a noreply address.

    • Taldan@lemmy.world
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      Europe did as well. An astronomic price for internet service

      The huge amount of money being paid for Ukraine to have Starlink/Starshield access contributed to SoaceX’s ridiculous valuation

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    No one should be using starlink. It has been shown to be completely untrustworthy as a service both by Elon and how it has been used and abused by foreign governments.

    The sooner Europe, China and all these other regions build their own, the better.

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      Yes, because even more satellites in lLEO is exactly what humanity needs right now, we still. Don’t have enough pollution and Kessler was just a pussy, right?

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        Kessler syndrome isn’t a big problem in LEO relatively speaking as everything there will fall quickly if not boosted

        But pollution is real

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          Unlikely

          It still requires time if we were talking about complete satellites, but we’re not

          Two satellites collide and you’ll have millions if not billions of particles of all kinds of sizes that will stay there for years. Each of those xab damage or explode (if big enough) other satellites. Yes, I’m explaining what Kessler is here, but the point is that it will take years if not decades for Leo to clean up enough to be able to launch anything through that mess and during that time the satellites that were there, well, no longer are.

          It WILL be a problem. We have hundreds of satellites at countless altitudes, but starlink just exploded the amount of shit satellites for that altitude. I never thought there would be a good application for it, but lo and behold, at least Ukraine can get good use out of them, good for them, in happy for them, but fuck everything else about starlink. I can see those craps flying through the sky at night, Elmo decided we didn’t have enough garbage and pollution everywhere sonhe just decided to add a shit tonne to it.

          Now Europe wants its own? China too? Why not every country, then, because we’re nsuxh a shitty species that we’d rather destroy ourselves over just cooperation with each other

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        If we could have a worldwide apolitical setup that made better use of the night sky that we love then that would be best, but we can’t. The ability to communicate in this way is a geopolitical necessity in any modern warfare. Space and AI are the new arms race

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    The mistake was to use starlink for a mission critical purposes.

    No more government money for starlink

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      The mistake was to use starlink for us government purposes, including allowing it organizing totally uncontrolled communications of the white house, who knows what classified info was shared this time with russia or the other dictators.

      The second mistake was to give starlink/spacex any subsidies at all, a company claiming to be that big can easily stand on its own legs.

      Another oops was the dismantling of the respected NASA in favor of spaceX to let it decide on anything spacefaring.

  • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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    In hindsight, it was a mistake for SpaceX to send (Ukraine) thousands of free Starlink dishes

    It was a mistake for Ukraine to accept them too, if you ask me. Becoming dependent on a mercurial neo-Nazi like Musk is not a smart idea. But I guess needs must when the devil drives.

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      In war, even a short lived advantage, is still an advantage.

      They didn’t become solely reliant on it, they still use fiber drones and other lower bandwidth rf alternatives.

      They were smart in their application and have politicized the waiver starlink support very effectively.

      Overall I believe they’ve done a fantastic job adapting to their available options. Semper Gumby.