In an interview with NBC News, Walters discussed his new Bible instruction mandate and the consequences for those who don't comply.
  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    21·
    2 年前

    Teachers can make this backfire by teaching kids about how Jesus said, among other things:

    • Rich people don’t go to heaven
    • Jesus’s answer to religious people not wanting to see things was for the people complaining to pluck out their eyes.
    • How Jesus told his followers to sell their shit and give it to the poor.

    All things republicans hate because it goes against their ideals. Also they can talk about how in Acts it says Christians lived communally or just read James 5:1-6 verbatim.

    But I guarantee the schools will force their teachers only to read parts of the bible that the state demand, because it’s not about Christianity, it’s about using religion to control people.

      • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        3·
        2 年前

        You’ve not fought against it very well, have you?

        • You have school “voucher” schemes for religious schools, which do shit like teach kids that Evolution is wrong because of the bible.
        • You added “In God we Trust” do your money and added “Under God” to the pledge of allegiance in the 1950s (The pledge, with or without it, is in itself a form of state worship).
        • You have had presidents (Reagan, Bush II) openly promote the idea that America is a Christian state through historical falsehoods.
        • One of the most powerful factions in your government are American Evangelicals who have used their power to promote religious based laws, especially against women and minorities.
        • Every President in recent times has had to show themselves to be openly Christian, with “not being christian (enough)” being a common attack strategy.

        And that’s just Christianity, if I was going to go into how you worship the state…

        • You have Four Faces of Presidents carved on a literal sacred mountain.
        • You make your kids pledge allegiance to the state every morning (I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands).
        • You have two (2) congress funded art pieces that depict George Washington as a God (Washington Enthroned and The Apotheosis of Washington), the latter of which is in the oculus of the Rotunda at Congress for everyone to see.
        • The Lincoln Memorial is straight up designed like a Greco-Roman Temple.
        • You have, as a social norm, displaying your flag outside your house.

        How is that not going to be interpreted as “religious”?

        Now, I know someone is going to be all “lol aren’t you from the uk where you worship the royal family” well guess fucking what:

        1. Barely anyone in the UK worships the royals, especially where I’m from (Scotland) and the people who do even in England are considered weird. Our relationship with the Royals as a country is usually one of aggressive irreverence. My family’s nicknames for the king includes “The Jug Eared Dwarf”, “Chuckie III” and “Tearlach an Chluas”.
        2. Despite having two (2) established churches (Church of England and Church of Scotland), non religious people make up the majority and the UK is aggressively secular.
        3. Despite the established religion and having the (in practice) head of state also be the (in practice) head of the Church, none of our politicians try and use religion to justify their bullshit and those who do are considered wankers.

        America, in the eyes of most of the world, is aggressively religious, not just in terms of christianity but also in worship of the state.

  • AncientMariner@lemmy.world
    15·
    2 年前

    What they failed to realise is teachers can have a unique ability to make kids hate a subject.

    If you force them to do it, they can do it really badly without it being obvious.

    I can imagine reading the Bible word for for in monotone from day 1 won’t be a good experience.

  • zazilicious@lemmy.world
    11·
    2 年前

    I’m so fucking tired of the US. Shit just always seems to get worse, and for every little victory, we take another huge leap towards a fascist theocracy.

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
    9·
    2 年前

    The goal is, here, to have an accurate view of American history

    By teaching bronze age fairy tales set in the Middle East.

  • wwaxen@lemmy.world
    9·
    2 年前

    Time for malicious compliance: "Kids, today we’re talking about two girls got their dad drunk and raped him to get pregnant.

  • EnderMB@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 年前

    Surely this could backfire in so many hilarious ways?

    • Teach the parts that conservatives don’t do, and teach your class to call out injustice everywhere.
    • Teach the bible in Aramaic or Ancient Hebrew, and give the kids 30 mins of study time to learn whatever they want from it.
    • Use it as an exercise to teach that many parts were written thousands of years ago, and doesn’t have current medical or societal advancements, so that many parts might be up to interpretation.
    • Compare it to Islam, Judaism, and other sects of Christianity - and teach that they’re basically the same thing and that everyone should get along.
    • Reference that the pope said years ago that even nonbelievers that led a good life would be offered a seat in heaven, so be nice and it’ll all be fine.
  • JohnOliver@feddit.dk
    81·
    2 年前

    ‘Teach Bible’… only churches should ‘teach bible’ and nobody should be forced to go to church.

    Is it even christian to force a sermon onto people?

    • azuth@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      2 年前

      Is it even christian to force a sermon onto people

      Well historically Christian denominations have been quite pushy to say the least.

  • AA5B@lemmy.world
    6·
    2 年前

    they’d face the same consequences as one who refuses to teach about the Civil War

    Now I’m really afraid to find out what this includes

    • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
      6·
      2 年前

      Which is a hilarious Freudian slip on their part. Who is it that they think don’t want to teach about the Civil War? Could it be the ones who instead refer to it as the “war of northern aggression” and try to erase the context of slavery by saying it was about “states rights”?

  • uis@lemm.ee
    5·
    2 年前

    School teachers, complying with letter of the law: “Bible says there was flood. Science shows there wasn’t. Bible says diseases appeared as result of sin. Science shows diseases existed long before humans.”

  • zetafish@fedia.io
    5·
    2 年前

    Some neighboring states that aren’t christo-fascist are about to get some really good teachers. Welcome to Colorado!

  • TimLovesTech@badatbeing.socialEnglish
    4·
    2 年前

    Reading the Memorandum, it doesn’t specify what Bible is to be used. Perhaps malicious compliance uses a “alternative” version?

    Also found this from the Satanic Temple (who hopefully is on top of this) -

    If a public school permits the distribution of religious materials to the student body, they have opened a limited public forum and are obligated to allow religious materials from other faiths. This principle applies to other forms of school-sponsored religious expression as well.

    Also funny how these hypocrites go on and on about indoctrination, and then want to indoctrinate every kid in the state by law.

  • MonkderDritte@feddit.de
    3·
    2 年前

    How can you teach Bible? Which historical happening in Israel influenced what part, which pagan deity Beelzebub was, etc?