Bahahahahahahaha, omg I needed a good laugh this evening., thanks…
Guy literally purged every halfway leftist in the fucking party, and has spent his entire time as leader, and is aiming his entire election campaign on, pleasing capitalists and maintain the status quo. The man doesn’t have a left leaning bone in his spineless self serving body.
Supermajority begins the process of dragging the overton window back left
Literally the opposite.
Normalising the current Labour party as anything even remotely left, which it isn’t in any way shape or form, shifts the window to the right by removing actual left from the map altogether. That’s the whole point of Starmer - to regain back ground for the right after what Corbyn awoke in the party and country.
We are getting a Tory whoever wins, they just wear different coloured ties.
Corbyn got absolutely fucked at the election. Running as an out-and-out leftist awoke fuck all in the general electorate.
The right were more than happy to get their foot in the door with Cameron, before dragging politics in this country further and further right. Why are we so unhappy to do the same?
Also, when on earth do you think the Tories were planning on setting up a nationalised energy company, renationalising rail?
Right, because he was obviously the one who launched the massive media smear campaign against himself, dubbing himself the biggest antisemite in Britain, to ensure the wealthy are protected from the devastating thereat he posed to their avoided taxes… 😂🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Running as an out-and-out leftist awoke fuck all in the general electorate.
I guess hundreds of thousands of people joining the Labour party, more than ever in history (and definitely more than have ever joined the Tory party), and hundreds of thousands if not millions of others becoming involved in politics who had never before, is nothing. Or maybe it’s just that you’re being wilfully ignorant… 🤔
Why are we so unhappy to do the same?
Because it’s not what’s fucking happening, Starmers foot in the door is categorically never going to move the oveton window left, and you wanting to model the Labour party after what the Tories do proves just how far right them, and their voters, have shifted in said window.
Also, when on earth do you think the Tories were planning on setting up a nationalised energy company, renationalising rail?
Yup, but people don’t want to hear it, they want to pat themselves on the back for “doing their part” and move on with their lives without ever having to stop to consider what they’re actually endorsing and what part they are playing in this charade designed to keep us forever subservient to the owning class.
He’s pledged to set up a nationalised green energy company, increase funding to the NHS, and build 300,000 new homes per year. That seems a fairly decent start.
Issue is the Tories have tanked the economy and cut taxes, so Starmer’s got fuck all money without raising taxes (unpopular, even though I think it’s the right thing to do). Post election and with a massive amount of political capital to spend, I think we will see tax rises on those that can afford it, to help fix some of the damage.
I swear some of the people on here only think you can be left wing if you want an 80% wealth tax of millionaires and are going to institute universal basic income.
Starmer is running a balance between left wing and actually getting fucking elected
Tbh the question is just how big a majority labour get, and whether the Tories will even be the second biggest party.
Nigel Frog Face Farage’s far right Reform UK do look like they might get up to maybe 15%-20% of vote however. But thanks to our very unrepresentative FPTP system they’re looking to get 0.15% to 0.31% of the members of parliament. In short they’re facing the same issues that have held down the left in the UK for years.
Barely even that, the man is the establishment, and has proven time and time again that he isn’t interested in the working class and other marginalised people. If anything, he’s there to keep things the same so that in the next cycle of this sham theatre the Tories can point to the lack of improvement as Labour failing and get right back in to power again.
The system is designed to self preserve, this isn’t a bug, it’s a feature, and as long as people keep playing along and pinning their hopes on the establishment reforming itself, we’re going to continue our rapid descent in to full blown fascism.
Honestly, they are talking about relations allowing the rail - they are left wing. Starmer just happens to be a pragmatist who actually wanted to get elected. You wait and see how much better state the country is in after 5 years under a left end labour government
While privatizing healthcare and continuing anti trans policies. If the only way to be elected in the UK is to really far right shit then that’s some societal rot right there.
The UK may even be doing better in 5 years but that would be an insanely low bar, currently the only economically viable area is London and the whole country is being overtaken by fucking Poland economically.
Why are the UK on here, were about to vote in a left wing party.
Bahahahahahahaha, omg I needed a good laugh this evening., thanks…
Guy literally purged every halfway leftist in the fucking party, and has spent his entire time as leader, and is aiming his entire election campaign on, pleasing capitalists and maintain the status quo. The man doesn’t have a left leaning bone in his spineless self serving body.
Eh, still better than the Tories. Supermajority begins the process of dragging the overton window back left, which I’m all for
Literally the opposite.
Normalising the current Labour party as anything even remotely left, which it isn’t in any way shape or form, shifts the window to the right by removing actual left from the map altogether. That’s the whole point of Starmer - to regain back ground for the right after what Corbyn awoke in the party and country.
We are getting a Tory whoever wins, they just wear different coloured ties.
Corbyn got absolutely fucked at the election. Running as an out-and-out leftist awoke fuck all in the general electorate.
The right were more than happy to get their foot in the door with Cameron, before dragging politics in this country further and further right. Why are we so unhappy to do the same?
Also, when on earth do you think the Tories were planning on setting up a nationalised energy company, renationalising rail?
Right, because he was obviously the one who launched the massive media smear campaign against himself, dubbing himself the biggest antisemite in Britain, to ensure the wealthy are protected from the devastating thereat he posed to their avoided taxes… 😂🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I guess hundreds of thousands of people joining the Labour party, more than ever in history (and definitely more than have ever joined the Tory party), and hundreds of thousands if not millions of others becoming involved in politics who had never before, is nothing. Or maybe it’s just that you’re being wilfully ignorant… 🤔
Because it’s not what’s fucking happening, Starmers foot in the door is categorically never going to move the oveton window left, and you wanting to model the Labour party after what the Tories do proves just how far right them, and their voters, have shifted in said window.
What makes you think New Labour is? 😂😂😂
Dude literally promised to continue tory policies. He’s a fucking Tory in a labour suit.
Yup, but people don’t want to hear it, they want to pat themselves on the back for “doing their part” and move on with their lives without ever having to stop to consider what they’re actually endorsing and what part they are playing in this charade designed to keep us forever subservient to the owning class.
Starmer’s Labour is about as left wing as the US Democrats are; by comparison only.
I mean, he really isn’t. He’s far to the left of them.
as i understood he has no intention of reversing the institutional damage from the Tories so he’s effectively supporting those anti welfare policies
He’s pledged to set up a nationalised green energy company, increase funding to the NHS, and build 300,000 new homes per year. That seems a fairly decent start.
Issue is the Tories have tanked the economy and cut taxes, so Starmer’s got fuck all money without raising taxes (unpopular, even though I think it’s the right thing to do). Post election and with a massive amount of political capital to spend, I think we will see tax rises on those that can afford it, to help fix some of the damage.
on ‘funding the nhs’: his shadow health secretary says he will employ privatisation to reduce NHS waiting lists: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-59910107
incidentally he also accepted £175000 from donors linked to private healthcare and health insurance firms: https://www.thenational.scot/news/24250557.wes-streeting-takes-175k-donors-linked-private-health-firms
Not to mention renationalising passenger rail.
I swear some of the people on here only think you can be left wing if you want an 80% wealth tax of millionaires and are going to institute universal basic income.
Starmer is running a balance between left wing and actually getting fucking elected
Nope. Both murican dems and cons are further right than Reform in the UK.
Not counting chickens until they’re hatched, I guess?
Tbh the question is just how big a majority labour get, and whether the Tories will even be the second biggest party.
Nigel Frog Face Farage’s far right Reform UK do look like they might get up to maybe 15%-20% of vote however. But thanks to our very unrepresentative FPTP system they’re looking to get 0.15% to 0.31% of the members of parliament. In short they’re facing the same issues that have held down the left in the UK for years.
Don’t worry, you are still in the running, it’s just a temporary setback.
Barely even that, the man is the establishment, and has proven time and time again that he isn’t interested in the working class and other marginalised people. If anything, he’s there to keep things the same so that in the next cycle of this sham theatre the Tories can point to the lack of improvement as Labour failing and get right back in to power again.
The system is designed to self preserve, this isn’t a bug, it’s a feature, and as long as people keep playing along and pinning their hopes on the establishment reforming itself, we’re going to continue our rapid descent in to full blown fascism.
Because of the last 10 years or so?
Everyone’s scared of Reform UK I guess. Forgetting how FPTP will fuck them in the same way it usually fucks the Greens and the Lib-Dems.
When did the UK get a new major party? Or are you just being wrong and calling the labor party left wing while their policies are just torie light?
Honestly, they are talking about relations allowing the rail - they are left wing. Starmer just happens to be a pragmatist who actually wanted to get elected. You wait and see how much better state the country is in after 5 years under a left end labour government
While privatizing healthcare and continuing anti trans policies. If the only way to be elected in the UK is to really far right shit then that’s some societal rot right there.
The UK may even be doing better in 5 years but that would be an insanely low bar, currently the only economically viable area is London and the whole country is being overtaken by fucking Poland economically.
Starmer’s left wing is centre right.
It’s really not, it’s just actually electable
Because this is a meme. It doesn’t have to make sense or be rooted in reality. Just 😂.