• Nøkkelost@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Deleted Reddit after I got asked to do this to Confirm my age.

    I didn’t need ro access any 18+ content on that platform but for me this was the alarm bell that made me actually delete my account.

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      The problem is that Reddit NSFW is an extremely broad category that doesn’t only include porn. So many posts and memes are tagged with it. Realizing that I’m now seeing a censored, inauthentic version of Reddit made me delete the app.

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        The whole brutal death metal community is NSFW because if the album covers, and I don’t wanna flash my face to that platform just for the music I enjoy listening

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    Sadly if you want to travel these days face scans are unavoidable. I still avoid them for commercial services, but yeah. Fly to europe or any major US city and you are going to be made to submit to a face scan to get through security.

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        Are Americans the only non-EU nationals that have to go through EES biometrics when traveling into EU/Schengen zone? I’m pretty sure that’s not the case.

        Now, I wouldn’t be surprised if many Americans don’t know we’ve been doing this to non-US nationals visiting the US for years via our US-VISIT program.

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          Americans are the only ones who fly to American cities without getting scanned… Because it’s an internal flight.

          I don’t think there’s a corner left in the industrialized world where you can go through passport control at the airport without getting you face scanned. At least as a foreigner.

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      Yes, but at the very LEAST, it’s being done by a government controlled entity that’s subject to data security auditing and some sort of regulated process for handling that data.

      These social media services are going to hold on to those scans, sell them for advertising data, and store them on dubiously secured servers.

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        a government controlled entity that’s subject to data security auditing and some sort of regulated process for handling that data.

        … who do you think the brokers are selling that data to?

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        Sadly, that government body pays private companies (palantier, cough cough) on the back end. They combine the data with a gazillion other datasets paid for by taxpayers. Since this is what they call “model training” you can’t unring that bell from that point on. Immutable data on an evil corporation’s dataset, for as long as data can be stored.

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        Oh for sure I just wouldn’t want anyone having my face scan personally. I’d love to have a law passed that designated biometric data as personal property requiring a warrant or explicit consent to collect.

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        I would posit that the government is even worse for handling this data. See recent FBI hack and not as recent OPM hack.

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          For all its problems, a democratically elected government will always be better than some rich guy who wants to rip you off and make as much money as possible.

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      The last time I went through TSA (earlier this year), I no longer saw the signs saying you could opt-out, but I was still able to opt out.

      The TSA agent got annoyed at me for not leading with that, though. Like… buddy… We exchanged greetings, and then I said no thank you to the face scan. It’s not my fault that you jumped the gun. I’m trying to not be rude about another unnecessary invasion of privacy.

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        Some of them they don’t even ask anymore. When you enter the US at certain ports of entry now they scan everyone as you walk up and they won’t even ask to see your passport because they know who you are and will just wave you through. Because that’s not fucking creepy at all.

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    lol one of my gmail accts tried to get me to face scan yesterday. some crazy shit man, email does not need my face.

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    Every single one of those websites is not crucial to existence even remotely. Let’s all collectively show them they don’t matter anymore.

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      The problem is that most people don’t care about digital privacy and wouldn’t think twice when asked to scan their face to access an app or website.

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        I remember reading about a teen who gave a random website her social security number to get 75% off. She was confused why it was such a big deal. She saved $500!

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        It’s true. There’s a whole chunk of mainstream users that won’t think twice about it. I don’t blame them though. Most people aren’t educated on the negatives and our government and tech oligarchs aren’t about to teach them. I work in tech and am terminally online, so I’m acutely aware of this stuff.

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          Even people who are don’t seam to care. One of my local revolutionary socialist org’s still uses WhatsApp for there general communication. I think it takes a special kind of nerdyness and neurodivergence.

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          The same people when I was trying to warn them in like 2012 - “They don’t want my data, I’m not that interesting”

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          A guy was saying to me how much he likes it. I said they sell your data, track your typing, create a profile and use you to sell you stuff etf.

          He says yeah, I love that! It makes my life so much easier and I don’t care about being sold stuff I probably want.

          Idk what to say to that.

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      Not only are they not necessary, they’re actually harmful to existence. Admittedly I use YouTube somewhat through privacy front ends, but quitting all the others has been great for my health. Using nebula has also minimised my use of YouTube.

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        YouTube is the only one left for me as well and I’ve been considering Nebula myself. One thing I do try to avoid though is all of the rage bait stuff. I actively filter it out and focus only on videos that teach me things. So a lot of science, food, carpentry, and other crafty kind of channels and videos. Oh, and a lot of animal ones.

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            Why would you pay for a YouTube replacement with far less content? Just use an ad-blocker, sponsor blocker or a private frontend. Maybe even torrent-tube if your into that kind of thing.

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              Because I like supporting the small creators of the content I enjoy? Because it’s only like $35-40 for an entire year? Because I find YouTube to be full of slop? Because Nebula doesn’t use an algorithm?

              I could go on.

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                There are private youtube front-ends like freetube that don’t have an algorythm. If you think youtube is full of slop then just don’t watch the slop.

                Nebula is still centralized and has a much more limited content selection that requires a process for new creators to join. Also I’m not sure what you would define as small but many content creators on that platform earn way more than enough money.

                If you want to support creators you can donate through them directly.

                Look I hate youtube and google as much as you, I just don’t think nebula is the solution we should be looking for. We should be advocating for free, decentralised alternatives. Not another for proffit business that advocates itself as being friendly and community centered before enshitifying as soon as it gets popular enough.

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                  I already don’t watch the slop, because I watch more content on Nebula and Patreon than I do on Google’s platform. That’s kind of the point, you know? YouTube is full of slop, and watching it in any way can support the slop they send to the masses, even if you aren’t seeing it yourself. No algorithms should be a default thing, not something only power users will even think of doing. That’s what I was saying about Nebula. If you don’t want to use one of the many private frontends for it, you still do not get an algorithm.

                  I vastly prefer Nebula and Patreon to YouTube in every way. Nebula may be centralized, but it’s no where near to the enshittification of YouTube. It is currently better, so I’m happy to use it. If it enshittifies, I’ll just stop using it, because you can do that.

                  I never said Nebula was a solution to anything other than not being YouTube while having the content creators they enjoy. It’s great at that, the cut they give creators is much better, there isn’t an insane amount of tracking, etc. If the content creator I enjoy is on both YouTube and Nebula, I’m going to use Nebula every time, because then I don’t have to support Google. You know, one of the biggest companies in the world, which is worth trillions? The one that peddles slop, spies on you, and intentionally makes their platform as addictive as possible?

                  Video is unfortunately a very expensive thing to store and network. The quality of content on Nebula is better than most things you can find on decentralized alternatives partly because it is able to actually pay creators. That will continue to be the main thing stopping creators from using decentralized platforms, unfortunately. That is not to say some aren’t successful on it or making high quality content, of course. It’s just a lot more rare than the centralized alternatives.

                  Also, do you think that the only creators on Nebula are Wendover and Tom Scott? There are plenty on there that are no where near that size, and are small creators. I’m not sure why you think small creators should get shafted because large creators exist on the platform.

                  It seems that you’re okay with people using YouTube if they use a private frontend. But you’re not okay with promoting a different platform entirely, so people can completely avoid YouTube? It isn’t making sense to me.

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          If longform video is your thing, I would highly suggest Nebula. I’ve paid £27.30 for a years subscription. Creators say they get paid fairly and can make content without censorship. It has been exactly what I’m into.

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            27£??? I went to their site and it’s 60€ a year… 27 £ it’s like max of 35 euros… I have to use UK as VPN to buy it then.

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              This is with a discount code. I remember discount codes being offered out by some creators on YouTube to encourage people to join Nebula. I obviously don’t look anymore, but you will likely find one of you look around and wait.

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          Peertube is probably the closest. I don’t really use either, but I’ve understood that peertube is a bit lacking in content.

          As you’re here on lemmy.ml, I doubt it, but if you happen to be a “cryptocurrency enthusiast”, then odysee might also be an option, though I’m not sure hiw much of it is open-source.

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          I know of: Peertube, Odyseey, Rumble and bitchute.
          You can also watch YouTube videos via frontends (Grayjay,Invidious) and archival websites

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          YouTube is problematic because it isn’t really the platform that is valuable, it is the content creators.

          A more appropriate alternative to it is GrayJay app, which tries to remove YouTube monopoly by supporting multiple platforms. If enough people would use that, content creators could really migrate from one platform to another.

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      Good luck getting the kids off of Roblox. They would literally kill someone for robux.

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    DON’T support fascist politicians if you actually value the privacy of yourself and others.

    Oh wait, that was them.

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      Unfortunately, while the left is generally better on this, the mass surveillance state has bipartisan support among the ruling class. My state legislature is all dems and yet you still have to consent to share your info with Google, Microsoft, and a number of AI startups in order to check your EBT balance or submit documents online.

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    I hate to say this but I am an Instagram user. They asked me to scan my face to “check if I’m a bot”, and they banned me even after I scanned my face. And no, I didn’t post my dick to a reel. This is bullshit.

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      Instagram banned me when i started using a VPN and i never looked back, delete your account

      However: none of my friends contact me now that i dont use META

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        Yeah, it’s hard to find a friend irl who happen to use pixelfed instead of Instagram

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        I am locked out of the interface otherwise. I know it’s a stupid thing to use Instagram in the first place

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          Would you rob a bank too, if they asked you to? Because that’s what you’ll have done if your biometrical data gets sold into the wrong hands.

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      Even when presented by a Swiss Warrent signed by a Swiss judge, and failure to comply would mean Proton is breaking Swiss law?

      Yah, no

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      Because we have reached some sort of critical mass of ad blocking and anonymization online, enough that it’s starting to hurt the bottom line, so they need a solid way to track people for that shit.

      Also, the US is currently being run by a rabid pack of puritan Christo fascists, ie Project 2025. Right now it’s “protect the children”, but ultimately the idea is to track and sensor and “reeducate” people.

      “Oh, you search for ‘signs I am gay’? Better report to God Camp.”

      Don’t even think about trying to be anything that does not fit in the box.

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    Don’t scan your face for Insta,

    The influencers want your polaroid.

    Don’t scan your face for Twitter,

    Elon wants your dogecoin.

    Don’t scan your face for YouTube,

    The vloggers want your shorts.

    Don’t scan your face for Twitch,

    The Slime Ranchers want your plorts.

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    I had to scan my face to access the $20k of I-bonds I already had with the Treasury.

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      I’ve always obsessively kept my photos off any cloud provider for years only to discover that the entire rest of the family have a treasure trove of fully tagged pictures of me uploaded to every major provider out there. In most cases I think it even ties the tag to my phone/email/birthday entry in their Contacts list.

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        Always wondered about this, if they receive a GDPR request from you do they have to delete others tagged pictures of you and your contact details? I mean it is your personal data technically.

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          Yeah, they do. AIUI there’s some nuance about what constitutes “legitimate interest” so it’s possible (probable in fact) they might only delete pictures where you’re the main subject but not e.g. group photos from events