The steam hardware feed just published news about the reservation queue:

We launched Steam Frame last month, and with the reservation queues and waitlist in place we wanted to give folks a better idea of when they can expect to see an email with the option to purchase.

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If you have a reservation You can now check on your expected order window by going directly to the Steam Frame product page while logged in to your Steam account. Once there, you’ll see confirmation that you’ll receive your order email either by December, or in 2027. Those in the 2027 camp will receive further (more detailed) information on their expected order timing by January.

I didn’t know if they’re rolling it out differently in different regions, but I cannot see it right now and I am in the reservation queue for Europe/Germany.

😐

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    24 days ago

    Hmmm I might just join the waitlist now, then. Because I wanted to give myself a few months to think it over, anyway.

    • CriticalThought@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      This news seems to suggest that the wait list might take a very long time (many months, possibly more than a year) to service?

  • JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de
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    24 days ago

    I’m in the 2027 gang, damn. Oh well, on the bright side I basically have an extra 1k disposable now.

    What I don’t understand is why Valve didn’t share this information from the beginning. Their communication led to believe that everyone who landed into the reservation queue would receive theirs within weeks, or within 1-2 months at most. Making us first wait almost a month only to be like, ‘btw, you’re not getting yours until next year’ is a really shitty way to treat your customers.

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      23 days ago

      That was also my understanding. Having people wait for months on the reservation queue makes it meaningless vs the waiting list. How little stock did they actually have I wonder.

  • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf
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    24 days ago

    Why even bother with the whole waitlist/reservation thing in the first place?

    My order availability is 2027, which makes having a “reservation” fucking meaningless.

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      24 days ago

      “Waitlist” feels redundant with these timelines. I wonder what their plan was, really: “Let’s create this game-changing headset, but only manufacture and sell a couple thousand of it. Yeah, that’ll change the whole market for VR!”

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        24 days ago

        I’m sure they completely decided on this course and this isn’t because of the massive data-center driven hardware shortage.

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          24 days ago

          Yeah, yeah, it’s all the RAM price’s fault. I don’t buy it. Valve sets the price for the headset and they could and should should have set it to fit demand. What’s the point of selling it at production cost if you cannot manufacture sufficient quantities? At a higher price, they could’ve gotten more RAM and reduced demand. Now the scalpers do the real price discovery for them, benefitting noone. I would’ve expected Valve of all companies to understand this.

    • PonyOfWar@pawb.social
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      24 days ago

      I was put on the waitlist and until today I still had a little bit of hope I’d be able to purchase one this year. Haha, nope. I’ll just resign myself to probably never getting one at this point.

      • ozymandias117@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        I’d gotten the email to order one, but I was out of the country…

        Steam support said they couldn’t delay shipment or give me 2 extra days to order so I’d be back when it was delivered…

        So I got kicked all the way to the end of the waitlist Kinda killed my excitement, now

      • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de
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        24 days ago

        At this rate there’s a realistic chance to get a used one at a reasonable price before getting a new one from the waitlist. As much as I like Valve I have to say they really dropped the ball on this one. Why even bother creating a market-changing device when you only produce it in minuscule numbers. Now they have neither an egg nor a hen.

      • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
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        24 days ago

        People went from being on waitlist to being on reservation for Steam Machine recently, and people got Steam Controllers earlier than estimated time. Steam might be choosing to be more conservative on their estimates so still hope.

    • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      Why even bother with the whole waitlist/reservation thing in the first place?

      Disincentivize scalpers.

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          24 days ago

          Shuffling the order queue means that even ordering one with a scripted bot is senseless because it’s not first come, first serve.

          Not happy myself that I’m in the 2027 group but maybe some hero ports SteamOS to the Quest 3, then I could cancel my order and save money. I genuinely want one mainly as an unencumbered VLC player with a giant virtual screen.

      • zewm@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        And yet there are still scalpers. All it did was stop legit buyers from having a chance.

        I have been against this stupid ass lottery since day 1.

        I was able to get every single valve hardware on day 1 prior to the lottery. This is first time I didn’t get valve hardware at launch.

    • ericwdhs@discuss.online
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      24 days ago

      Valve definitely dropped the ball on communication, but there is a real distinction between the lists.

      The reservation list likely ties to guaranteed inventory. This would cover everything from warehouse stock to parts awaiting manufacturing and/or assembly, RAM being the probable bottleneck. As long as a full bill of materials is confirmed and finalized, Valve would consider those allocatable units.

      The waitlist would then be all demand beyond that, and since Valve might not have RAM or storage obtained for them, those people might see a price increase.

      • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf
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        23 days ago

        I’d argue it’s more than just dropping the ball.

        I received an email to say I have a Frame reserved. To me that means that I will soon be given the option to buy one, not some time next year.

        They should’ve only reserve listed as many customers as they have actual inventory for, anything else is misleading. I’ve even seen people commenting that they’ve been moved from the wait list to the reserve list when it’s obvious Valve don’t have the inventory to meet demand.

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          23 days ago

          Well, I think the reserve list is still actual inventory and that the wait list moving is still inventory getting allocated. If you ordered a cake from me and I had all the needed ingredients in the back, I wouldn’t think twice about saying, “Okay, we have a cake reserved for you.” That’s just how I’ve always thought the word worked.

          That said, I do have the 'tism, and I don’t have prior experience with making product reservations shaping my expectations.

          • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf
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            23 days ago

            I get it but with your analogy, if you had all the ingredients and told me you’d get back to me at the start of next year with further information about when I might be able to expect my reserved cake, I’d be pretty unhappy.

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    24 days ago

    Sad to be in 2027 group, but at least I won’t get my hopes up every time I see the new email notification.

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      24 days ago

      Me too, I just hope the price won’t go up before I can place my order.

  • PonyOfWar@pawb.social
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    24 days ago

    It’s not showing anything for me either, also Germany.

    Edit: Oh wait, this is for the Reservation Queue, not the waitlist. Wtf. Their stock must be ridiculously low. I somehow thought that reservation queue meant getting it within the first few weeks.

    • CriticalThought@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      I somehow thought that reservation queue meant getting it within the first few weeks.

      Same here! It seems to me the wording for the reservation queue description naturally gave this impression. I think Valve could have done a much better job with messaging…

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      24 days ago

      I’m in Germany I it is showing for me directly under the “Reservierung stornieren” Button:

      Für Sie voraussichtlich bestellbar: Zwischen jetzt und 30.Dezember.2026

      • SavinDWhales@lemmy.worldOP
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        24 days ago

        I’ll have to wait until '27. Good thing I bought the color camera early! That’s already sitting on my desk…

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    24 days ago

    welp. I will be on another continent for most of that year. I guess I’ll wait for 2028 when I’m back.

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    24 days ago

    Welp. I guess “this year” is better than 2027. Thank you for the heads up.

    And thank you for linking to the source and not some third party republishing the information with 1000 words of unnecessary context and ads.

  • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works
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    24 days ago

    Where is it supposed to say if you’re getting an email before 2027? I don’t see anything about an estimate anywhere

    • Aralakh@lemmy.ca
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      24 days ago

      I declined too, as I expected to wait longer (like with the steam machine). Couldn’t swallow spending so much in a short timeframe, thought i’d have more time.

  • Lemmchen@feddit.org
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    24 days ago

    So reservations have to wait until 2027? Damn. I’m still on the wait list. I’ll probably not get a chance to get one before 2027H2.