So again are you gonna like have a conversation with them? I don’t understand.
How many times do you strike someone breaking into your home or do you wait to see what their intent is?
These things happen fast, many people have a weapon ready for home defense especially if you live in unsafe areas and once that switch is hit to act most people go the whole way. Guns don’t work like they do in a movie you don’t shoot someone and they fly back or dramatically are defeated. People can often take several rounds before that’s that.
And the age old saying goes, if you intend to pull a gun use it.
So again are you gonna like have a conversation with them? I don’t understand.
Call the police? Hide? Hit them with a chair? Idk, there would probably be quite a few things I would come up with, even in a panic, than fucking shoot someome. Not to mention the obvious lack of guns anywhere nearby. Might be weird to you, but as i said cultural difference or something.
How many times do you strike someone breaking into your home or do you wait to see what their intent is?
Not sure what you mean, but obviously I would intend to restrain them or knock them out or whatever, while not using any kind of intentional lethal force. Thats my whole point. Luckily never had to think about it, kinda my poiny of the initial comment.
These things happen fast, many people have a weapon ready for home defense especially if you live in unsafe areas and once that switch is hit to act most people go the whole way. Guns don’t work like they do in a movie you don’t shoot someone and they fly back or dramatically are defeated. People can often take several rounds before that’s that.
Happy I am not anywhere near a place where this is considered normal and not intending to go there. But most gun owners are aware that one can be killed by guns right? Even if they don’t fly away like in the movies? Weird concept to me to need 4-5 shots, but i guess i get the panic reaction if one thinks guns are normal.
And the age old saying goes, if you intend to pull a gun use it.
Luckily, I don’t intend that.
I didn’t mean to come up as offensive to you or something, but it is icredible to me how shooting and killing someone is viewed as perfectly acceptable. That was my main point
Call the police when the rapist is already in your bedroom? You’re smoking crack.
As far as it being incredible that shooting someone is viewed as acceptable? I’m sorry, but I have no problem with people using lethal violence to protect themselves from being killed or raped. And honestly, the world’s better off without murderers and rapists walking around in it.
Insane that we live on the same planet but in different worlds. Sorry you have to live like this.
And honestly, the world’s better off without murderers and rapists walking around in it.
I completely agree, but thats not your call to make imo, less so in a panic situation. Call me crackhead, but i’m glad i am apparently in a fairytale world.
Nobodys having conversations. I don’t know why you seem to be implying a binary choice of gun vs conversation.
You can defend yourself in European countries, but the thing is that the defense must be proportional. You cannot kill someone for stealing a TV or your wallet and not physically threatening you with lethal force.
My brain is rotted? Maybe you should reconsider your perception of America.
Meanwhile France, Austria and Finland and experience way more break ins than the US and on a city to city basis places like London and Paris have way more robberies than in the US.
Didn’t Sweden have a sweep of gangs using explosives and grenades a few years ago?
You’re kind of being delusional yourself. We can argue all day about gun violence but acting like the US just shoots people is genuinely ignorant as hell. Whether guns should or should not be owned for self defense isn’t as simple to argue. I personally would prefer owning a gun for home defense than not because there are some crazy and violent folk out there.
Because he talked about de-escalation with an intruder. What other forms of deescalating is there than talking? He’s literally suggesting to have a conversation with your intruder.
You can attempt to flee. And if you can’t leave, you can also acknowledge them and not make sudden movements, ask what they want to get them out asap, and if they seem out of their senses, you can ask what’s up. All without holding a conversation.
You can try to handle the situation without a gun and immediately shooting them in the head. No need to be a gun nut all the time.
It’s very silly your perspective on how this shit plays out. You’re like “well did you tell the bully he hurt your feelings? Maybe he’d stop if you shared how you feel.”
You’d be surprised how many shots a person can take before they actually stop. As long as the heart and spine are intact, a guy with a knife can survive a bullet wound long enough to finish the fight
My ex girlfriend was on a murder trial. The perpetrator (who was convicted) shot the victim in an altercation. However, after being shot but before dying, the victim rushed the perpetrator and beat the shit out of him with his bare hands. So yeah, obviously not a justified shooting in this case but it does show how shooting once is often not enough to stop an attacker.
It sounds absolutely fucking insane to me to shoot someone 4-5 times, even if they break into your home. But i guess it’s a cultural difference lol.
So again are you gonna like have a conversation with them? I don’t understand.
How many times do you strike someone breaking into your home or do you wait to see what their intent is?
These things happen fast, many people have a weapon ready for home defense especially if you live in unsafe areas and once that switch is hit to act most people go the whole way. Guns don’t work like they do in a movie you don’t shoot someone and they fly back or dramatically are defeated. People can often take several rounds before that’s that.
And the age old saying goes, if you intend to pull a gun use it.
Call the police? Hide? Hit them with a chair? Idk, there would probably be quite a few things I would come up with, even in a panic, than fucking shoot someome. Not to mention the obvious lack of guns anywhere nearby. Might be weird to you, but as i said cultural difference or something.
Not sure what you mean, but obviously I would intend to restrain them or knock them out or whatever, while not using any kind of intentional lethal force. Thats my whole point. Luckily never had to think about it, kinda my poiny of the initial comment.
Happy I am not anywhere near a place where this is considered normal and not intending to go there. But most gun owners are aware that one can be killed by guns right? Even if they don’t fly away like in the movies? Weird concept to me to need 4-5 shots, but i guess i get the panic reaction if one thinks guns are normal.
Luckily, I don’t intend that.
I didn’t mean to come up as offensive to you or something, but it is icredible to me how shooting and killing someone is viewed as perfectly acceptable. That was my main point
Call the police when the rapist is already in your bedroom? You’re smoking crack.
As far as it being incredible that shooting someone is viewed as acceptable? I’m sorry, but I have no problem with people using lethal violence to protect themselves from being killed or raped. And honestly, the world’s better off without murderers and rapists walking around in it.
Insane that we live on the same planet but in different worlds. Sorry you have to live like this.
I completely agree, but thats not your call to make imo, less so in a panic situation. Call me crackhead, but i’m glad i am apparently in a fairytale world.
Where did you get the information that the intruder mentioned above intended to rape the guy that shot him?
Nobodys having conversations. I don’t know why you seem to be implying a binary choice of gun vs conversation.
You can defend yourself in European countries, but the thing is that the defense must be proportional. You cannot kill someone for stealing a TV or your wallet and not physically threatening you with lethal force.
https://nypost.com/2003/10/31/golden-girls-defeat-thug-with-kindness/
https://www.kgns.tv/2023/08/03/an-87-year-old-woman-fought-off-an-intruder-then-fed-him-after-he-told-her-he-was-awfully-hungry/?outputType=amp
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/thug-thanks-would-be-victim-for-saving-his-life/2117587/?amp=1
My brain is rotted? Maybe you should reconsider your perception of America.
Meanwhile France, Austria and Finland and experience way more break ins than the US and on a city to city basis places like London and Paris have way more robberies than in the US.
Didn’t Sweden have a sweep of gangs using explosives and grenades a few years ago?
You’re kind of being delusional yourself. We can argue all day about gun violence but acting like the US just shoots people is genuinely ignorant as hell. Whether guns should or should not be owned for self defense isn’t as simple to argue. I personally would prefer owning a gun for home defense than not because there are some crazy and violent folk out there.
A conversation? Huh?? Where’d that come from?
Also, people have had conversations with intruders without shooting them dead. https://youtu.be/3P6GvOJK08s
American gun culture is rotting your brain, just so you know. Live abroad for once. See what the rest of the world sees.
Because he talked about de-escalation with an intruder. What other forms of deescalating is there than talking? He’s literally suggesting to have a conversation with your intruder.
You can attempt to flee. And if you can’t leave, you can also acknowledge them and not make sudden movements, ask what they want to get them out asap, and if they seem out of their senses, you can ask what’s up. All without holding a conversation.
You can try to handle the situation without a gun and immediately shooting them in the head. No need to be a gun nut all the time.
It’s very silly your perspective on how this shit plays out. You’re like “well did you tell the bully he hurt your feelings? Maybe he’d stop if you shared how you feel.”
Absolutely goofy.
This is the second time you’ve resorted to ridicule and strawmanning rather than refuting the point. Talk about “goofy” some more.
You’d be surprised how many shots a person can take before they actually stop. As long as the heart and spine are intact, a guy with a knife can survive a bullet wound long enough to finish the fight
My ex girlfriend was on a murder trial. The perpetrator (who was convicted) shot the victim in an altercation. However, after being shot but before dying, the victim rushed the perpetrator and beat the shit out of him with his bare hands. So yeah, obviously not a justified shooting in this case but it does show how shooting once is often not enough to stop an attacker.