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Grandmothers on both sides were 1pack/day.
One died early 60’s from smoking, other is into her 90s still getting around on her own.
This is what angers me about stories like this…
Population statistics don’t generally map very well to individuals. The existence of outliers doesn’t disprove the population data either.
As an example:
“Men are (on average) taller than women” does not mean “all men are taller than all women”. But that the average height of men is higher, and the extreme ends of height are higher. The existence of short men does not disprove the average being taller.
That said cigarettes are clearly a high risk / zero reward sort of activity that is crazy to see continue into 2025.
90 year old has developed a chronic cough/sinus infection and she’s spent a lot of time talking to ENTs but she hasn’t given up the one thing that’s likely causing the problem. She’s been calling it allergies for about a year now.
But some asshole saw snow outside in 2009 and said “look at all this global warming” thus disproving it all.
/s
zero reward
Removed by mod
Never thought of it that way.
Jokes on you science, it takes me 21 minutes to smoke a cigarette.
That’s 41 minutes of your life gone, then.
Got it. Smoke two cigarettes at a time to increase my total lifespan.
On average.
There’s always outliers on both sides. Which is important to remember because some pack a dayers making it to 90 makes people think it’s bullshit.
And for some people smoking is much worse than normal.
George Burns made it to 101 smoking five cigars and drinking a quart of scotch a day.
I do not recommend emulating his regimen for a long life.

How many minutes did I lose in those 5 years when I was smoking 3 packs a day?
I think I did the math wrong. I got 83 years
I must have died years ago lol
2,190,000 minutes, or 4.167 years.
60 cigs x 20 minutes x 5 years x 365 days
Thank you, I was afraid people would think I was living up to my username…I am genuinely curious but also lazy and bad at math.
Well shit, I lost a lot of minutes between the ages of 16 and 24.
I smoke a lot between ages 16 to 36, so I should be dead yesterday.
Explain these assholes who do hard drugs and ruin the lives of everyone around them, and eventually get off drugs but still smoke like freight trains into their 80s and even when finally on breathing machines.
Meanwhile some good people who never did much wrong nor tried to destroy their body just randomly die at 50-60 years old.
Susan and Death talking:
“All right,” said Susan. “I’m not stupid. You’re saying humans need… fantasies to make life bearable.”
REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.
“Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—”
YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.
“So we can believe the big ones?”
YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.
“They’re not the same at all!”
YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME…SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.
“Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what’s the point—”
MY POINT EXACTLY.”
― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather










