“Stop shifting the power balance waaaah!”
What a toxic choad.
What a toxic choad.
Upvoted for bringing back a most classic insult. Lol
How fucking dare that applicant ask what hours they will be working.
And trying to get a feel for the workplace culture‽ Absolutely outrageous!!!
the workplace culture‽
Such a loaded phrase lol
Is the culture yogurt or Clostridium botulinum?
or if they will get insurance through work.
I feel like the answer to some of these questions would/should be answered in either the job application or the job offer. I get not wanting to wait for the job offer, but a company not offering that info is a red flag imo. Personally, I’d ask before signing the official offer, and not at the job interview. I’d also probably go for more general questions.
“What does a typical work day look like?”
“What is the overall compensation package?” Though this one can be a bit taboo
why the heck would someone want to waste time with an interview process if they don’t know the most basic expectations and compensation? no, i don’t think you should have to wait for an official offer to learn things like hours and benefits.
I actually tell the employer that I’m interviewing them just as well as they’re interviewing me. It’s a two-way street. They can’t handle that. Well, sorry for them. They’re not for me.
Yeah, I’m at the point in my career that you win me over I don’t win you over.
It took time to get here but I’ve got no care for a shitty employer.
Thankfully I’m also self employed so unless my business goes tits up I’m set
Ditto and it feels so good
lowkey envious as fuck of you two
I hope you find a way! It’s pretty great.
“We are all like a family here… so nobody asks questions and just do as they’re told or else they go to the naughty corner!”
A lot of hiring managers are on power trips and forget that interviewees are not their employees. Also, the job description sucks if you have that many questions. Take it as constructive feedback if you’re a hiring manager. Hell, if you don’t like that many questions, you can even ask “Oh would you like a run down of benefits?” If you have none, you’re company is going to have a bad time hiring solid employees. Even if you’re a Dollar Store you should be ready with that rundown, unlike these idiots that expect no one to take bathroom breaks.
Interviewing is a two way street, and the employer definitely failed this interview
That said, coming with a long list of questions of different importance without noticing that the interviewer isn’t on the same page is also a bit of a signal so the prospective employee didn’t do great either.
A lot of these questions could be condensed into “What are the benefits like?” which is a great question to ask when they ask about salary expecations which often happens early on. If they provide very little in the way of benefits, raise salary expectations.
The other questions are generally around company culture. You don’t need to ask all of them to get a good enough picture. If there are several interviews, spread them out. You can also ask them in a more open ended way like “What is the company culture like?”, “What do you like most about working here yourself?” or “What makes your best employees so good?”.
“These ARE the important questions, though based on your reaction I don’t believe you are the employer to value a skilled employee.”
I’m on the job hunt right now and I cannot stress enough how much I do not care what company leadership needs to tell themselves so they can sleep at night. All I need to know are the pay, the benefits, and if the job aligns with my interest
One reason why finding a job is such a hassle. So many employers just want to interview people to hit a quota of “candidates reviewed” without taking any given candidate seriously.
You get a bunch of false positives in the search and waste time going through the motions with people who aren’t actually in charge of anything.
Straight out of college I had an eight hour interview process once, for an IT job that paid $25k starting. Round after round of quizes and queries that ate up my whole day.
Then I got picked up by a boutique medical IT firm a few weeks later after two calls and a 30 minute walk in, for nearly twice the salary. When I got the rejection letter from the first people six months later all I could do was laugh.
How tf is asking what hours I’ll be working, if not listed in the application, not important? Can’t work if I don’t know when I’ll actually be working.
In fact looking again why are they even having to ask them questions? Most of these seem like things that should be on the listing anyway.
parking is often not clear in larger cities where you’d have to pay for a spot in a garage. they may have spots, or you could be shelling out $200 a month like I had to.
Paying to go to work is wild
Everyone does that. You aren’t paid for gas, bus passes, the food you use to bike. Every single person pays to go to work.
Nope, here thanks to socialists half of bus pass is covered by employers (mandatory), some people have a car benefit fully paid even gas (but they pay contributions on that benefit), and companies can give tax free money for bikers and carpoolers, thanks to environmentalists.
But you are right, most of people does not have these benefits as it is not mandatory (except for bus pass)
My 100% Homeoffice employee contract says different. The moment I step outside my apartment to go to a rare meeting in the office or to a client’s site, I am clocking hours. Any reasonable (so no limo or heli shuttle) travel expense (gas+deterioration as well as parking if I were to use my own vehicle, tickets for public transport otherwise), I note down and hand in to the company at the end of the month so I get reimbursed fully.
If you have to travel to do your work, it makes sense for the company to have to pay for it. On the flip side, companies might prefer hiring people living in more convenient, closer locations to their business than rural farmsteads. Which on the other hand makes sense as well, reducing time and energy waste, imo.
And so your work pays for heating? Cooling? Internet? Power use for your laptop? Very impressive contract if so.
My employer pays for my phone, phone bill and internet bill. It’s standard at least in IT where I live.
These are questions for after receiving an offer.
The questions you should ask now would be along the lines of management style, corporate culture, and team dynamics. It’s the first few dates, not a marriage proposal.
I disagree. They’re important for me to know if I want to keep pursuing this job opportunity or if I should stop wasting our time. I don’t want to do a second or third interview only to find out afterwards about all these factors. I could be out there interviewing for other jobs in the meantime, not in a second interview at this shitty company that doesn’t want to tell me how shitty it is until they’ve offered e the job.
I don’t see how answering any of these question in s straight forward and honest way would reveal if this company is shitty or not. Their ability to provide free parking is far an indicator of quality.
Interesting that you cherry picked that one… I would consider work hours and whether or not you’ll get health insurance to be pretty consequential
I didn’t say it wasn’t consequential, I said it wasn’t an indicator of if it was a shitty company.
OK. But those things definitely are.
Free parking, insurance, hell… Even weekly activities don’t necessarily make or prevent a company from being shitty. #6 could be an indicator, but by itself, it’s not enough.
Not providing health insurance definitely makes a company shitty.
Exactly what questions would this person consider “more important”?
The obvious ones duh.
Should I be referring to you as sir or master?
When I bend over should I hold my cheeks open or will you do that?
Can I lick your boots before others so I can eat more shit?Waitaminute. Were you at my last interview?
I can kind of see the logic here. People think they interview the top three candidates and, if so, the interviewees have a high chance of actually getting hired. These would then be appropriate questions in that scenario.
However, if they are interviewing 100 candidates in 4 hours then the appropriate place to find this info for the interviewee is the job posting. The hiring manager doesn’t have time to answer 20 questions from 100 candidates and moreover if the information is on the job posting, then they either didn’t read it or are basically asking if the interviewer is a liar to their face. Now, if it isn’t on the job posting, well that is the person who posted it’s fault and they should expect these questions to be asked OVER and OVER.
If it is general questions like 6 or 7 that normally doesn’t appear on job posting, the appropriate time to ask those questions (to a busy interviewer) is when a job offer is made to the interviewee.