• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people.

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      The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people

      Impressive that it is actually true, I thought it is an exaggeration. From Wikipedia:

      On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler, the leader of the Nazi Party, came to power

      On 6 May 1933, a group of students … the students proceeded to shout “Brenne Hirschfeld!” (“Burn Hirschfeld!”) while ransacking and vandalizing the Institute, tearing pictures from the walls, pouring inkwells onto carpets, and destroying exhibitions while the band played outside.

      src: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_Nazi_Germany

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        Yeah, when they teach about book burnings they never mention that fact. It also serves as a reminder that trans people are not just a modern phenomenon. The Nazis’ reasons for targeting trans people then are the same as right-wingers today, they look for a small, marginalized group and seize on existing prejudice to sow division and divide and conquer. The Nazis claimed trans people were a Jewish plot to weaken and destroy the Ayran race, and you can still see echos of that in some right-wing rhetoric today.

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        How dare I inform people about objective historical facts that relate to modern day news stories 🙄

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        A take so dumb, wrong and out of context that I don’t know how to respond to it. Wow

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        You came into a discussion about trans topics being censored and are angry that trans people are being discusses? Do you think this thread is the “fucking center of the universe”?

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        It’s objectively true that the German nazi party first went after gender studies they didn’t like. It wasn’t called transgender at the time, but that’s what we call it today.

        I’m a straight white dude and it takes very little thinking to see that trans people are being targeted as “the other” again. So, not kindly, go fuck yourself.

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    Since when does the CDC have the authority to do this in the first place? If the CDC can’t effectively police actions during a global pandemic they sure as shit shouldn’t have to authority to control the terminology used in medical research.

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    “forbidden terms”

    …must be that “free speech” I keep hearing about. This is obviously a first amendment issue, right?

    Right?

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    I’m so fucking scared. They’ve inhibited our movement by fucking with passports, they’ve defined us as dishonest and dishonorable in the EO kick us out of the military, they’ve codified the notion that our gender identity constitutes sexual deviance and poses a threat to children, they’ve attacked proven life-saving care, with a focus on children and an impact on adults.

    and now they’re trying to book-burn us out of existence.

    this is systematic dehumanization, the track record of which is grim.

    There’s just straight up not enough of us to do this on our own.

    If people don’t start standing up for us, we’re fucked.

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        They’re refusing to issue passports to people who have had their gender marker legally changed, and some bigoted employees have been illegally confiscating documents (like birth certificates and social security cards) from those who try anyways.

        So if your drivers license gender marker doesn’t match your birth certificate, they’ll refuse to issue the passport, and there’s a non-zero chance that the person behind the desk will steal both when you try to apply. So now you don’t have a passport and you need to go through the arduous process of getting all new ID paperwork just to prove who you are.

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          They confiscated it, wouldn’t give it back and were threatening to arrest her. There are also reports of trans people that were renewing their passports by mail and told they wouldn’t be getting them back.

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            Ugh.

            You just know if it was someone sadly following the new requirements, it would have been a very apologetic taking of it and that would be the end, even if traumatic.

            When they threaten to arrest them, they’re in on it.

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        They are stealing the documents of trans people who go to get new documents including passports, leaving them without identifying paperwork (and identified by the authorities by the paperwork they lost) in a time where that is very convenient for the people in power, and threatening them with arrest if they ask for them back. In addition to what has been said already

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        From my sister about my 17y.o. trans niece: “Unfortunately, [niece] had a children’s passport (expired now), so she’s in the group who would not be able to get a passport anymore because her birth certificate and social security don’t currently match each other and don’t match her passport records.”

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        non-binary people had been getting “X“ instead of M or F on their passport. The Trump administration will no longer allow those passports to be issued

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          Seems to be more than that, one person was outright refused any passport, even male, and were threatened with arrest if they asked any more questions. All paperwork (birth certificate etc) was kept by the office in LA.

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            Maybe it’s just the three trans people I know that are trying to leave the country right now, my brother’s family, and a bunch of family friends that come from a family of pilots and flight attendants.

            I’m sure they are the only people having trouble in the whole country. Must be an isolated incident. … …

            They are all located out west and in the Midwest, so maybe it’s just the Chicago office and the website. I don’t know if anybody has tried doing it through mail correspondence yet but that takes a little bit more time anyway.

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              That’s completely different than, “The entire passport office is shut right now.”. You were either being unnecessarily hyperbolic, or intentionally spreading misinformation. Neither helps in situations like this.

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            There have been multiple people in local groups that have reported this happening to them this week. Going to get documentation updated, sent home without anything - not even documentation with natal sex. Local queer org put out an advisory - reached out to all shrinks that work with queer people.

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      All people need is a focus for resistance, a group or a leader to join. Most people are disgusted by this, and despite the election result I still believe most people would rather see trans people happy than suffering. And as the visibility of trans people increases, more and more cis people have been discovering that they know and care about trans people in their own lives. That’s why the hateful fringe feels it’s so urgent to shut trans rights down. They know they have to push people back into fear and silence before transphobia becomes uncommon. And they know they have to silence people talking about these matters to make organized resistance possible. But the quiet is largely people not knowing how to connect and resist, not a lack of desire to resist. It’s time for organized resistance and the first movement that gets going will find many supporters.

      We also need some organization around getting LGBTQ+ refugees out of the USA and into other countries. The restrictions on passports are very ominous.

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    An attack on science is an attack on us all. They are trying to erase science they dont agree with. This is Christian fascism - welcome to giliad.

    Anyone in the US please organise - join an anti religious influence group, protest, disobey. You must fight back.

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        science needs politics to not be repressed, politics needs science for being effective and fair.

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          Science doesn’t need politics to tell what is what, it’s science who should be telling politics what is what. Ofcourse politics can block science, e.g. this article.

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        For them, it’s worth the cost for greater good harm.

        They don’t care about the greater good. They care about causing as much harm as they can.

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    The CDC has instructed its scientists to retract or pause the publication of any research manuscript being considered by any medical or scientific journal, not merely its own internal periodicals

    The scope is thankfully limited only to CDC scientists.

    Not that this makes it good news by any stretch.

    This is going to push research money squarely under the thumb of corporate control, which is of course the aim here. Privatize everything.

    I do know scientists hate having their work paywalled or censored so I’d expect sci-hub to get a lot more popular real quick, but many will definitely self censor their official publications to keep their jobs til orange hitler shoots himself in a bunker somewhere.

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      I don’t even know about corporate control here but we’re only going to get “research” that “aligns with policy”, rather than quantifying facts