• WatDabney
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    281 month ago

    The irony is that Beth pretty much set the standard for ambitious, weird and unexpected with Morrowind, and have been backing away ever since.

    • Ms. ArmoredThirteen
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      41 month ago

      The arc from Arena -> Daggerfall -> Morrowind really made it feel like they were mastering the recipe. Daggerfall is great for weird and ambitious too but not as approachable as Morrowind, and more or less kicking off modern modding is a big deal for Morrowind. Oblivion was a bit of a slump but felt like they could recover. Then Skyrim 😞 it’s embarrassing

      • @[email protected]
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        01 month ago

        Imma gonna fight ya all. Skyrim is a good game, even vanilla. For it’s time. The rereleasing to infinity hurt it because people compared it to newer games.

        It’s not as deep as Morrowind/Oblivion, but it is a good game. Just aimed more at casuals.

  • @[email protected]
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    211 month ago

    Avowed was pretty terrible too.

    The problem with AAA games is they’re trying to make a game everyone likes, compromises on everything, and ends up with something no one likes.

    BG3 and CK2 tho set out to make great RPGs and had faith people wanted great RPGs.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 month ago

      What did avowed do wrong? I wanted more fist/barehand viability more ways to say stuff even if the result was the same

      • @[email protected]
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        What did avowed do wrong?

        That’s what I’m talking about…

        It’s not that they do anything wrong, it’s that the don’t do anything well.

        It was less an RPG and more just a fps shooter with the same bare minimum of RPG elements as every other fps shooter.

        The biggest games are the blandest because they’re trying to appeal to everyone. But even people not into RPGs can like a good rpg. Which is why BG3 and CK2 KCD2 are so popular.

        Big studios aren’t underestimating their audience, they’re just counting on video game enthusiasts buying every major game.

        I ran thru it on game pass, and it was alright, but I was kind of just going thru the motions. So I said “terrible” but I meant it was terrible at being a big budget triple A RPG.

        It felt like a generic fps from 20 years ago, the only flavor was from existing IP pasted over it.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          The way I would explain it is: they aren’t just battling the current gen titles but also all the games released before them. So meh just gets drowned out in the sea of already released games.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        If you have gamepass it’s fine for a 20 some hour play thru.

        But I wouldn’t recommend anyone spend money on it, it’s probably going to get huge discounts soon.

  • kbal
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    61 month ago

    To be fair, it’s hard to say what Bethesda has to offer when they haven’t released anything since 2011. [checks wikipedia] Nope, nothing. Unless you count Fallout 4, which I wouldn’t.

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      Starfield was like a child’s half-inflated balloon: let go with high hopes only to immediately disappoint, then swiftly forgotten once it drifted out of sight. Bethesda wanted to reach the stars, yet only managed to drop trash in someone’s garden.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 month ago

      Bethesda also claims to have released a game new instrumental album called Starfield.

      Shame about the price tag and download size though.