‘Tesla Takedown’ protesters planning ‘biggest day of action’
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500 events, 277 showrooms, March 29th
  • Null User Object@lemmy.worldEnglish
    231·
    9 个月前

    There have also been an uptick in incidents of arson, vandalism, and violence against Tesla showrooms that, while unrelated to the protests, have led to Musk and President Donald Trump labeling them “domestic terrorism."

    It’s perfectly reasonable to think that at least some of these could be false flag opperations orchestrated by the Trump administration to give them cover to arrest innocent people and eventually declare martial law. The more that possibility is part of the mainstream conversation, the more wind it takes out of their sails towards accomplishing those goals.

    • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
      172·
      9 个月前

      I wish the stock price would just collapse already along with organic consumer demand for the cars themselves evaporating into nothing so it could whither and die a natural death.

      As much as I hate Musk, I’m not a fan of seeing property damaged. Not because I love the property, but because it’s too easy to leverage it as terrorism by a regime that has a hard-on for labeling anything it doesn’t like as such. Consumer collapse and bankruptcy would be beautiful to behold.

      • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.orgEnglish
        62·
        9 个月前

        I don’t like damage to property cause I’m scared of my tyrannical government

        lol ok, bet doing nothing will work. Maybe try appeasement?

        • Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          71·
          9 个月前

          Pretty sure property damage is one of the options to attack a tyrannical government. Assassinations too. At least its options people have used, not sure exactly how effective it was but the nazis lost in the end.

        • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0·
          9 个月前

          I have a feeling, even if the World Trade Center had been completely depopulated on the morning of September 11th and the hijacked aircraft only had jihadists aboard, the event would have probably still been declared an act of terrorism.

          The determination of what constitutes terrorism isn’t for us normies to make. The people in power get to have that particular privilege, regardless of what we feel.

          • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            9 个月前

            Peeaonally, I think terrorism requires a certain scale of either malice or destruction. Flying jetliners into an empty icon of the country? Definitely terrorism. Crashing a little Cessna into a National Forest? Probably not terrorism.

    • Derpgon@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      9 个月前

      Imagine invoking Martian law (pun intended, because of the Alien act) due to someone bullying a billionaire by burning their cars.

  • tyrant@lemmy.worldEnglish
    191·
    9 个月前

    I’m worried about the next Rittenhouse. Stay safe out there and watch out for the “good guy with a gun”

    • Shiggles@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      51·
      9 个月前

      Disclaimer - not an electromagnetic scientist wizard

      My understanding is that EMPs are more of a concern for the tiny electronics on computers versus relatively large motors or batteries. So, an electric vehicle is still at risk, but I don’t think it’d be any more at risk than any ICE car that’s all computerized anyways.

      • CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish
        81·
        9 个月前

        With all the touch screens and computer controlled door handles I wouldn‘t bet on a Tesla in this showdown.

      • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        31·
        9 个月前

        Nuke type EMPs are a threat to very long wires, like miles long ones used to transmit power. The blast causes a ripple in the earths magnetic field that induces current over huge distances. But I don’t know what a more handheld device would affect.

        • Shiggles@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          31·
          9 个月前

          Electric motors work by inducing a magnetic field with coils of wire, so I’m sure a strong enough EMP would disrupt it temporarily, but I don’t know if it would meaningfully damage anything after the EMP ceased.

          • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            21·
            9 个月前

            They’re made specifically to deal with high electromagnetic flux, so it definitely wouldn’t hurt them long term. Best bet would be something higher frequency to mess with the computers.

        • skulblaka@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          6·
          9 个月前

          In all seriousness microwaves are the #1 leading cause of death for hobby electronics people, be careful around them and know what you’re doing before you open it.

          • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            9 个月前

            I didn’t realize they were the #1 killer. Most of them via electrocution of the HV capacitor, I would imagine?

            15ish years ago I got lucky and didn’t kill myself on the first one I ever cracked open. I managed to become marginally more intelligent and after poking around in it decided it’d be smart to research the art of microwave dismantling, which led to a minor anxiety attack and cold sweats when I realized how stupid I had been.

            • skulblaka@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              3·
              9 个月前

              Yep. That HV capacitor will turn you into orbital bacon with a quickness, and it keeps a charge for way longer than you’d ever think was realistic. In the same vein as “assume every gun is loaded”, also assume every capacitor is charged.

              • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                9 个月前

                I think I even read it can gradually spontaneously self-charge if left alone long enough with the terminals insulated from each other. I don’t know if that’s actually true (it would seem to be a sort of Maxwell’s Daemon at that point), but yeah, best to not take chances.

                • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  3·
                  9 个月前

                  They do charge over time when terminals are not shorted, but it’s not like they go from discharged to spontaneously fully charged in seconds. It’s a slow creep that happens over an extended time period.

              • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                9 个月前

                Hahaha, funny you mention that. I was this close to trying to open an old CRT set many years ago when that little voice in my head said, hey, maybe look up what happens when you do that. I decided I didn’t need to go through with it.

                That being said, DLP sets are my absolute favorite to dig into. So many awesome optical components, mirrors, and cooling fans inside. I didn’t find anything that seemed too dangerous, either.

        • ramenshaman@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          9 个月前

          It’s quite dangerous, the magnetron can kill very easily. There’s this youtuber called styropyro who’s done some really cool stuff with them though

          • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            9 个月前

            He’s a treasure. The inside of a microwave is insane in its casual dangers. Like that HV capacitor, or, more insidiously, the beryllium insulator that can cause berrylliosis if broken and inhaled.

            • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              9 个月前

              Sounds like you don’t even have to do anything to make it dangerous. Heck, let’s just chuck broken microwaves at the Teslas.

    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      9 个月前

      For cars, you’re gonna need something a bit bigger. Large coil, capacitor bank to generate a static field and some high explosives to disrupt that field to give the pulse. It fries the wires in a car. Single use only.

      • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        9 个月前

        Sounds like an awesome YT video for backyard scientist or action labs or alpha phoenix or definitely styro pyro

        • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          9 个月前

          “Sorry but I only have video about the construction process. All the cameras I’ve set up got fried when I’ve set this thing off, including the memory cards. It even messed up the magnetic tape in the old school relic we had as a backup. With that out of the way, let’s get into the construction. This episode is sponsored by …”

  • ssillyssadass@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    9 个月前

    I wonder if we will finally get a visible notion of the inaction in protests in the US compared to the rest of the world.

    I bet non-US protests will average at 2000 people per, but protests in the US will total 2000 people.

  • BigMacHole@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    9 个月前

    According to our Government this is WORSE then Shooting up an Elementary School!

  • Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    0·
    9 个月前

    If I was insuring Tesla or their showrooms in any way, I would see to get rid of this contract as fast as possible.

    • Aux@feddit.ukEnglish
      1·
      9 个月前

      I wouldn’t. That would be covered under the force majeure clause, so no need to pay anything to Tesla, but you can increase premiums by a lot and earn crap loads doing absolutely nothing.

  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.worldEnglish
    0·
    9 个月前

    What does protesting in front of Tesla achieve, it’s a private company, just boycotting their products is enough to hurt them, they need to protest the goverment goons and get that cunt impeached and save democracy

    • reiterationstation@lemm.eeEnglish
      0·
      9 个月前

      Elon hates it. Elon is a part of our government. Our government is buying Tesla to prop him up. If you just crawled out of a fucking rock there’s your answer.

      Here’s another answer for you after decades of seeing assholes outside of a Planned Parenthood. Fuck you if you think people shouldn’t protest outside of Tesla.

        • witten@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          9 个月前

          Any given act of protest isn’t enough to save the country. But multiple acts building on each other will. It’s about continuing to apply pressure, one step at a time, until the fascist regime topples.

  • UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.worldEnglish
    01·
    9 个月前

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