Like flipping a switch. Americans are completely brainwashed.
Republicans are brainwashed. This sort of thing happens all the time with them, on almost every issue.
Both are brainwashed, just in different ways. Republicans are wired for fear. Democrats are wired for passivity.
The republican version is a lot more dangerous, but the democrat version is a lot more insidious.
Ive spent a lot of time in the states and i can tell you unequivocally that all americans afe haddwired for fear. You are extremely jumpy and paranoid people when compared to more modern nations.
Fyi, I’m not actually American myself. I agree with you otherwise however.
You could see republicans opinion change drastically and immediately in his first term based on his opinion, and democrat opinion remain relatively the same. When Obama bombed Syria, around 80 percent of Democrats and 80 percent of Republicans disapproved. When trump bombed Syria Democrats moved a few percentage points. It was probably affected, but in the deviations. Republicans swapped from 80/20 disapprove/approve straight to 20/80.
There was a great chart that showed this sort of phenomenon, I think across a range of issues, but I can’t find it. Can anybody help me out?
I’m sure you can find many with words analogous to voters, changing, perceptions, opinion polls, etc. I know I’ve seen dozens of examples of conservatives changing their opinions dramatically based on propaganda, while everyone else — the people not indoctrinated with a mental illness — stay relatively static; as in +/- 5% instead of 10-40%.
You will likely have to use advanced search and the internet archive. Also best to search key propaganda narratives like “migrant caravan”.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m looking for, but my google-fu (or rather DDG-fu) is failing me. That’s why I’m asking for help.
You’d think an appropriate chart would come up in a simple image search and not require archive.org. I don’t think it’s been memory-holed; I think I can’t figure out the right search terms.
I know which one you mean I think — a range of charts that showed how conservatives’ principles changed a lot depending on which party was in power while liberals’ stayed fairly consistent. I’ve just spent ages trying to find it too, thought it was on dataisbeautiful but my google-fu is also letting me down.
Magats are fucking dumb. Argue with them like it’s a chess match being a few moves ahead and you can very accurately predict what they’ll say next.
Are they fitting the curve on like 3 points for 24 and 25? I don’t think it’s untrue but why publish this with such a low-hanging fruit to delegitimize the argument
now do the same thing with Canadians about mericans . 90 degree upwards i’m guessing.
AmericansRepublicans. FIFYRepublicans are Americans.
And they control the entire government and the most viewed media right now.Well according to them they’re the only Americans. Which I’m fine with, I REALLY don’t want the label.
Now you know how us British retainers feel when people went on that we all wanted to leave the EU.
I’d like to see these graphs only relating to their opinions on Russia and North Korea from the 1980s, at least, through now.
This is just insane, though. The decoupling from reality is seemingly total.
Our allies are fine. I’m learning to dislike my countrymen. Not that there’s a lot of new ground to cover on that subject…
I’m just one guy, but absolutely not me. I hate my fellow Americans a million times more than anyone in Canada, or Europe.
Man, looking closely at this is comical. Conservatives are the most flock-minded people on Earth, whatever their taking heads say instantly becomes their new zeitgeist. The irony of conservatives calling everyone else sheep is… Well I guess there’s a reason I so often hear the phrase “every conservative accusation is a confession”.
This is the power of the algos.
I had two Reddit accounts and one was solely used for gaming.
I would get these heavy metal videos about Mexican rapists that were deported on the one linked with gaming. (A clear conservative take). Showed Canadians as commies / socialist evil staties. Like dudes face - deportation date - what they were convicted of - murder or rape. It was wild.
And some of my liberal social main account demonstrated or showed a shit load of Canadian content that linked them with MAGA.
so I’m not even sure if the blue line ticking up is “I hate Canadians” or “they are magats too”
What I find surprising is that it was decreasing before, what happened in 2018?
Sums it up perfectly
Republican americans are in fact cosplaying the movie idiocracy but with a nazi germany crossover.
No, and I start to hate Idiocracy-comparisons. Remember the one crucial thing they did in the movie: listen to the one person most able to solve their problem and then make him president, not put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him.
The US is most similar to the 2030s-early 2050s US in the Chinese-written White or Black (Chinese variant of Brave New World).
- An alien shows up, and an international team sent to investigate kill it by accident.
- A bunch of aliens show up a few years later, but they’re content to float in the sky.
- After deciphering their language, humanity discovers that the aliens seek asylum on Earth, and they claim that the human race is doomed unless humanity does some immediate course correction.
- “Lol, no.”
- Meanwhile, a group of religious MAGA Republicans (Trump is presumably dead at this point) form a religion devoted to worshiping the aliens, believing that they’re angels sent by God.
- The aliens’ predictions come to pass. The collapsed US is then taken over by the alien supporting religious organization in the late 2060s-2070s.
Basically the plot of Terra Invicta.
Well, they did put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him, but the idiot wasn’t malicious.
That supposed idiot was at the time the smartest living person. Trump is all but that.
That’s right. What the US is doing is pretty much just cosplaying Nazi Germany. The Nazis weren’t evil geniuses, they were pretty stupid and disorganised (a hallmark of every fascist regime is everlasting internal rivalry for more influence) and put their idiotic little ideology and personality cult above all else (for example, deportation trains to the death camps had precedence over much needed military logistics, even very late into WW2, also Nazi big wigs regularly engaged in disastrous micromanagement because they could, like when Hitler personally put new fighter aircraft development on hold because he wanted bombers, at a time when regular Allied air raids on Germany were already a reality), inevitably leading to picking a fight with pretty much the entire rest of the world and predictably losing that. The only thing the Nazis were clever (enough) with was propaganda. See any similarities already?
i dont want to even think about actually competent and efficient nazis
Nobody wants that. They are by far destructive enough in their incompetent and inefficient state.
They are like somekind of cancer in humanitys collective psyche or something.
The fact that they can change their opinion on their close friends based upon what the president says is kind of pathetic. They call everyone else sheeple and brainwashed as they believe everything he says without question. The definition of a cult.
It’s always – always – projection.
I used to think it was only sometimes projection or often projection, but lately I’ve realized I was wrong. I literally can’t think of an accusation the MAGAs have used that hasn’t been projection.
What did Canada do in 2018?
Probably the same tariff stuff https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-steel-aluminum-tariffs-canada-mexico-b2696606.html
I’m sorry from half of America
A third. There’s a third in favor of the turd, a third is apathetic, and a third did something to stop the turd.
So two thirds are problematic.
