Them trying to buy Judges indicates that Judiciary still holds power in the US at least to some extent
Fucking awesome. And honestly, I’d take Austin Powers’ Dr. Evil—bald cat and all—over the real-life 2025 Nazi Dr. Evil any day. Wild that that’s now a perfectly reasonable stance.
Or Ronald Reagan.
Get f*+ked fElon!
it can be done !
please someone have a still frame of him jumping like a dipshit in that cheese hat.
fucking troglodyte.
You owe me money for therapy
The cringiest cringe that ever cringed.
wait that’s actually real? i never thought that was real
It’s like a jagged black symbol cut from the flag.
That’s one expensive hat.
THANK YOU WISCONSINN!!!
-bonus if you remember drew Carrie
Drew Carey*, but “Hello Wisconsin!” Is the last line of “That '70s Show’s” Intro.
The Drew Carey Show was set in Cleveland, Ohio.
Specially, the suburb of Cleveland Rocks
‘Cleveland Rocks’
byperformed by the lovable goofballs The Presidents of the United States of America.Edit: Correcting my wrongness.
I’m sure your mailbox is full of lovable, violent Mott The Hoople droogs by now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-IEMlJyak
Noooo im getting ooooold. thanks for the correction.
We all are. At least we are on the correct side of the dirt. :)
I need to go rewatch the Martin show before I completely forget the 90s
The mere mention of that show brings me back to high school and I hear “What up??”
I had a homie in college that let me crash at his place, and i swear to god that was all he had on VHS and the same TV from 1989. I watched a lot of Martin in college.
‘Daaaamn, Gina.’
For now
Holy fuck i actually sighed relief
Tbh I was surprised…
I was afraid to even look at the news. I hope this leads to even one small, tiny good outcome because it’s looking baaaad for all of us.
I would love to see more of things like this.
that’s like someone with some savings spending 25$ to buy an election what a cheap fuck
He really spends his money poorly
I could do so much with his wealth with far less harm caused
Fortunately, he’s bad at spending it for evil, too. Example: Dogecoin.
The rich have transcended money. Money is for the poor.
It’s a big deal for Wisconsin but Elon just saw it as an excuse to flex on state election laws.
The real upshot of the vote was that, once again, wealthy people are allowed to commit crime with impunity. Now Elon’s goon squad goes back to the drawing board to find a better way to cheat.
Not even. He makes 96 million a day from nothing. Keep your “it’s not liquid!!” To yourself, the money spends regardless.
Haha get fucked, Elon!
Elon to start handing out “winner” cheques only after his favourite wins next time. Or he’ll be offering 5mil cheques for the next one he wants elected. The man isn’t short of money, these amounts are rounding errors for him.
The 25 mil is a rounding error.
The cheques went to specific pre-selected supporter-workers (Lemmy told me), they had to be paid either way.
Trump has this to say:
VOTER I.D. JUST APPROVED IN WISCONSIN ELECTION. Democrats fought hard against this, presumably so they can CHEAT. This is a BIG WIN FOR REPUBLICANS, MAYBE THE BIGGEST WIN OF THE NIGHT. IT SHOULD ALLOW US TO WIN WISCONSIN, LIKE I JUST DID IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, FOR MANY YEARS TO COME!
Sounds like Trump has plans to make sure people like Susan Crawford don’t get elected in the future.
Im actually suprised you dont have that.
It’s been part of WI state law for a while. Putting it in the state constitution makes it harder to repeal.
This is one of those things that needs some context. Lots of nations have ID requirements similar to this, and people from outside the United States are often confused as to why it’s a problem. The issue is that it’s a backdoor to voter disenfranchisement.
Not everyone drives, and therefore, doesn’t need a state-issued ID. But now you need one to vote. So you have to go to the DMV to get an ID that’s not a drivers license but functions the same way for ID purposes. Except the DMV is only open during working hours, has long lines, and the nearest one may not have public transportation going to it.
It’s often minorities who don’t have drivers licenses to begin with, and they tend to vote for Democrats.
In practice, there was never significant voter fraud at all. Not enough to change the outcome of any race. Even on the surface, it’s solving a non-problem.
Why would you need to go to the Department of Motor Vehicles for an ID though? For a driver’s license I can somewhat understand but that should be the extent of their responsibilities.
Over here you go to your local registration office which basically every town has? It’s the same office for registering where you live (which you are also legally required to do) - meaning there are more than enough of them around. For smaller towns they are usually located in town halls, larger cities have many of them spread around.
Honestly, you’d easily get significant adaption of IDs by just mandating them for everything. Want a bank account? Need an ID. Want to get a job? Need an ID. Want to get a driver’s license? Need an ID. Are you older than 16? Believe it or not, need an ID.
If (nearly) everyone has an ID, it cannot be used as means for voter disenfranchisment.
Why would you need to go to the Department of Motor Vehicles for an ID though?
Well, now you’re seeing the issue. You go to the DMV because that’s the only place allowed to give out state IDs. This is not an accident.
If (nearly) everyone has an ID, it cannot be used as means for voter disenfranchisment.
You’re forgetting that the entire point is to be disenfranchising. Yes, this is 100% fixable, and Republicans will fight to make sure it doesn’t get fixed.
. IT SHOULD ALLOW US TO WIN WISCONSIN
Except it won’t, because you already need to show your ID to vote in Wisconsin. The referendum was only to put it in the state’s constitution, so it can’t easily be undone.
To be even more clear, EVERYBODY that voted in yesterdays election NEEDED to show their ID.
fascists always do what they say their enemies are doing
GOP - Gaslight. Obstruct. Project
What does this mean?
Isn’t the election finished?
What does he mean “it should allow us to win wisconsin”
The current election is done, but there will be more in the future. I believe he’s referring to those.
Just 10 years ago people would’ve called any politician who said moronic stuff like this a sore loser. And every non-expert would see that he is actually talking about cheating himself. What happened? The sanewashing needs to stop.
Sounds like Trump has plans to make sure people like Susan Crawford don’t get elected in the future.
It’s one of their stated goals. They’ve been against making voting easier fror the disenfranchised since day one. Day zero actually. Before that. For decades. Maybe close to a century now.
Longer than 10 years ago. He was first in office over 8 years ago.
But his particular sore loser attitude didn’t kick in until he lost the 2020 election. In fact in 2016 he was high on accusing Clinton of being a sore loser, for no particularly good reason. He loved calling out a sore loser until he lost.
He had plenty of bad behaviors, but being a sore political loser wasn’t one of them at that point.
Voter ID laws shouldn’t be controversial, they are enacted in most democracies.
Any obstruction to voting should be controversial.
Requiring identification is an obstruction to voting?
It is! Some countries use a “permanent” ink to prevent voting twice, but yes, just let people vote.
Let’s imagine one person one vote, but without voter ID. Now, one person can be 10 people…IF that one person wants to set the record for “easiest voter fraud conviction ever.”
In-person election fraud isn’t a thing that statistically happens.
However, requiring an ID does SUPPRESS turnout in countries that are deporting so quickly they sometimes accidently deport their own citizens and can’t get them back (true story bro).
So you fixed a problem that doesn’t exist, but hurt poor and marginalized people. Sounds like a shitty idea.
Are you suggesting voter ID laws suppress turnout in most modern European democracies?
In my country i just get my vote-note in the mail. In America you now have to own a passport which most doesn’t, be a member of a party, which 90mil eligible voters aren’t, and hope that your boss has the same political views as you, so he lets you off work to go vote.
LOL that’s absolutely not true
Which part?
In America you now have to own a passport which most doesn’t, be a member of a party, which 90mil eligible voters aren’t, and hope that your boss has the same political views as you, so he lets you off work to go vote.
I’m pretty sure you can answer that one for yourself.
Right, it is not.
Then what’s the point?
Both true and not true.
The idea that you have to register to vote is not normal in most democracies.
For example, in the Netherlands you have to carry ID at all times, whether you are voting or just going for a walk. You don’t have to register to vote, you just get mail a while before the election with a paper that you take to the voting booth, which is usually a few minutes walk away.
Such a system prevents fraud (which is already a non-issue in the USA, even with its confusing and difficult system), and also makes it easy for as many people to vote.
The goal of voter ID laws is to provide ways to disenfranchise people, by making things slightly harder and create plausible points to not count some ballots.
Here in Italy we have “electoral cards” which are issued once every so many years and get reissued when expired or when you move. You need that AND your ID to vote.
Nobody makes a fuss. Just have to be an adult and remember to check if you lost yours sometime before you have to vote. Seems like a good minimum requirement for voting, being able to hold on a piece of paper.
in the Netherlands you have to carry ID at all times, whether you are voting or just going for a walk
That’s pretty disgusting. Are you sure though? Some Americans think this about America too. If true, why not just tattoo subtle ids on people or force facial/other recognition and fingerprinting and iris scanning on everyone. What age do you have to start carrying id?
Yeah that struck me, too. Sounds very weird to an American. Realistically, having an ID on your happens most of the time, but if I didn’t have to drive, I’d leave my wallet home and just carry my phone all the time.
You don’t even need a license on you to drive most places. You just need to be licensed. If you decide to id yourself they can just look your license up. My state has id on phone too though. You could see if yours does.
I didn’t know that was a thing. Looks like it’s a misdemeanor here to be driving without your license physically on you, but I’ll assume that will probably get updated at some point. Probably after I can’t drive any longer…
I am quite sure. I was out with a friend and he got fined for not carrying ID. The legal requirement starts at 16.
In a place as polarized and corrupt as the US, Voter ID is merely a tool to keep Red or Blue in power. Tomfoolery involving the invalidation of a side’s enemies’ IDs is near certain.
Maybe you don’t remember because you didn’t speak English yet, but this is something that we figured out like 20 years ago.
Do like 5 minutes of actual research.
What are you talking about?
I think my comment was very clear.
There’s a shit ton of information on Voter ID laws, most of it from like a decade ago when Republicans themselves were openly admitting that they were pushing it in order to disenfranchise “certain groups”.
It’s just so fucking dumb that, in 2025, people are pretending to not know the purpose of these laws.
Hmm. Why would a .ml user support voter ID laws I wonder?
Why not?
The fact that Trump is saying out loud that voter ID laws would “allow them to win all future elections” should give you a clue as to why not.
Voter ID laws, at face value, are not the problem. The problem is that Republicans have made getting a valid ID damn near difficult in typically blue areas.
Not only that, there are simply no cases of voter fraud in the US where a voter ID would have stopped said fraud. Voter Fraud, as it happens, is so rare that the only really effective way to commit fraud is by ballot stuffing which, surprise surprise, Republicans have consistently been caught doing.
I don’t really care what Trump says. Most modern democracies have voter ID laws, that is the sensible thing to do. It is difficult to prove that voter fraud doesn’t happen, are you saying people just haven’t been caught? You shouldn’t be able to vote as someone else just because you know their name and their address.
Of course, we should also prevent ballot stuffing.
It’s a solution to a problem which doesn’t exist.
Implementing Republican voter suppression laws is not sensible.
I have this user tagged.
They got me banned from ml for calling them out because they were saying, “you have to give Trump credit for brokering peace in Gaza” a couple of weeks back.
Surely, a leftist used to studying intricate theory and picking apart the layers of capitalist control to see the rot at its center would be able to see why voter ID laws are a problem. I have it under great authority that .ml is filled with such users. Can’t think of any possible reason why they’d be for it. None at all.
It disenfranchises many voters. I know several people who don’t have valid IDs. I was almost unable to to vote last November because my ID expired, and all my local DMVs were booked for many months. Had to set an appointment 3 months in the future at a DMV 50 miles away from me to get an ID just before the election.
I still can’t get my California ID because of how much the DMV is giving me the runaround. At this point, I just keep my WA ID and said fuck it.
In many cases you can renew an ID online or by mail; if you can’t, there’s always the option to just show up at the DMV, you don’t have to have an appointment.
And if you don’t have a home address then you don’t deserve to vote?
Remember when we decided to not let just land owners vote?
You deserve to vote despite not having a home address.
And voter ID laws make it so they cannot.
Your solution is to just spend an entire day at the DMV and hope you get seen so you don’t have to do it again the next day? In what world does that sound reasonable?
Most of the world actually.
Well I don’t have time in my life to spend an entire day at the DMV. And I don’t find that to be a reasonable expectation. So, not here.
I’ve had to pay late registration penalties due my vehicles before under the same circumstances. Walk in, 150 people in line, walk out.
Why don’t you renew your vehicle registration online or by mail?
The DMV (or secretary of state offices) I know won’t see you without an appointment.
Including Wisconsin. It’s been the law for over a decade. This just put it in the *constitution, for some damn fool reason.
ETA: Interesting story. We had a whistleblower testify in court that the legislators who created the law intended for it to suppress voter turnout.
One of our congresspeople (iirc) bragged about it suppressing enough votes to give the state to Trump in 2016 too.
How much for a passport in the US? What’s the expiry time?
Are there any goverment workers left, that can issue them?
Ut costs $165 and is valid for 10 years. Yes of course.
Bout $80 and a decade
ETA: its also a massive pain in the ass that most people don’t do at best. And some groups are having a harder and harder time getting one.
If a passport is accessible to you, get one, they’re great and practical. But in the US voter ID is a voter suppression tactic. Personally I would much prefer a universal “citizen/permanent resident ID” that’s free, easily obtained, and can serve as a motor vehicle license and short form passport, but we aren’t there, that ain’t happening, and I don’t trust the current administration to do it without forcing minority status on it and forcing minorities to carry it everywhere
Two Million dollars down the drain, only 400 Billion to go. Go team go!
Tesla is doing a great job at depleting his net worth
To be fair, it had some help from Tesla.
Looking into how this asshole aquired his wealth, I palpably understand the phrase “too big to fail”. With some initial mom&dad money, he’s been failing since day zero yet getting continuously richer. One could say that failing (+windfall) is his business model.
Failing upwards. An aspect of the Peter Principle.
I’m reminded of a comment I saw on Reddit which I saved a while back. Can’t remember who posted it, but I often think about it:
Entrepreneurship is like one of those carnival games where you throw darts or something.
Middle class kids can afford one throw. Most miss. A few hit the target and get a small prize. A very few hit the center bullseye and get a bigger prize. Rags to riches! The American Dream lives on.
Rich kids can afford many throws. If they want to, they can try over and over and over again until they hit something and feel good about themselves. Some keep going until they hit the center bullseye, then they give speeches or write blog posts about “meritocracy” and the salutary effects of hard work.
Poor kids aren’t visiting the carnival. They’re the ones working it.
Edit: Looks like it was originally a Hacker News comment reposted on Reddit
Beautiful
Fuck the billionaires.
Eat the billionaires.
They got the TV, we got the truth
They own the judges and we got the proof
We got hella people, they got helicopters
They got the bombs and we got the, we got the
We got the guillotine
We got the guillotine, you better run
