do it now! https://youtu.be/ZXsQAXx_ao0
Keep at it Americans. We know you didn’t want this.
I look forward to being proved wrong, can’t wait to see how this changes the situation.
and if all those same people that showed up to protest had showed up to the houses of conservative government leaders and drug them out into the streets, we’d be making real progress. i love it when the people show up. i just want them to do something with that energy.
Protest movements take time… especially given what we’re up against. And people don’t go from My First Protest attendee to guerilla freedom fighter overnight.
We have to keep protesting.
It’s a waste of time… sorry.
If you’ve given up and are ready to take those billionaire backshots then go ahead. I’m not.
I felt the same, then someone mentioned Martin Luther King
you mean the guy who said in his last days that malcom X was right and that they would have gotten further by adopting his methods?
for anybody wondering, this loosely appears to mirror the population density at a quick glance (which makes)
Generally, yes. Alaska seems over-represented, while Utah and the deep South are a bit light.
Looks at massive gap in the center of Nevada
Ya don’t say.
central US gaming, really.
There aren’t blue states and red states, just states with more people of one persuasion or the other, or neither.
And what do we call a state with more people of red/blue persuasion?
New England and the Chicago area look on that map like they’re about to cecede to Canada lol
Here’s my reaction to the protests:
I’ve been hurt by too many flash-in-the-pan activist things that ended up going nowhere. I’m not ready to believe yet.
That kinda depends if semblance of leadership takes form to have actual reasonable goals for the protest.
I feel exactly the same. I will be convinced when the votes are in.
and when the bodies of the guilty start piling up.
Maybe Oklahoma isn’t that bad
I was looking all day for protests in my area, southern OK, but the closest I could find was in OKC. I’m stoked to find out that there was one closer, and disappointed I couldn’t find it.
R/peopleliveincities
If only a small percent of the people who protested across the country were to band together to go after fascism it would be more than they could handle, but they know we never will.
Oh yeah? So what are you doing instead?
Nice try, FBI
Complaining on a fairly niche social media platform.
Yes! My city’s protest was a sight to behold. I will point out that these protests are just as much for the protestors as anything else. To be around so many people that gave a fuck was really energizing and hopeful. It pulls you out of your online ecosystem and reminds you that your neighbors care about you and you care about them. It builds momentum for the next protest and the next one and then more collective action. People are credibly talking about a general strike. Economic boycotts are starting to make a (small) dent. Our most effective tool is how we choose to spend our dollars and it’s going to take a lot of sacrifice and be more uncomfortable than any of us are probably used to but yesterday showed a whole lot of people that they aren’t alone.
April 19!!
Whats happening April 19th? I need to be more in the loop of when and where these protests are happening
The next big nationwide event
Ignoring a horrific genocide, while demanding protection for fascist military alliances like NATO, tells you everything you need to know about who this protest was intended to serve.
TIL, the Allies and the Axis of WWII are both fascist.
🙄
Read about operation paperclip, the founding commanders of NATO (Hitler’s former staff), and the fascist dictators installed by western leaders across the world in the name of fighting communism.
If the only history you’ve read was in public school, they would’ve left out all of this.
Hahahaha found the nazi!
I guess it was only a matter of time until these people started showing up here too, especially with the ahem signal boost we got yesterday.
What happened?
The April 5th protests, ofc! r/50501 was plastered on protest signs and shared all over the internet as the place to go for the movement. I think it has gained more than 20k subs just over the weekend. Naturally, that would lead some to here as well.
Surph’s been here for months. All of their takes are equally as stupid, as expected from a tankie.
Ah, I see. Glad no one here is tolerating his BS!
Sure. The person opposing genocide and an organization founded on Nazi ideology is the real Nazi!
These hasbara bots are noticeably lazier lately.
Hasbara, Chinese, Russian bots. Pick your poison.
The difference is whether they are opposing injustice or propping it up.
After looking through your comment history I’ve discovered that everything is black and white and any one person/group/organization only has one thing they stand for and everything else is a smokescreen. Unfortunately there’s no way to know which stance they appear to support is the real one, so I’ll have to look and see what you post to know the truth.
Some people may think that this is an inflammatory over-simplification specifically designed to encourage people to work against their own interests, but me and you know better, don’t we?
When it comes to something like a live-streamed genocide, there are no grey areas. There is a very clear right and wrong side.
Wait, do you think the protests are in support of Israel? That’s wild. There were Palestinian flags at the protests, my guy, and one of the biggest ones for support of Palestine was in DC. There’s footage and pictures of it, man.
Explain what you mean instead of being coy to hide your intentions.
Trump and MAGA don’t care about people holding signs.
Peaceful protests have proved time and time again they do nothing.
The women’s suffrage movement began in the early 19th century. Back then we were fighting to get the vote! Men, at the time, said, “tut, tut, darling…” The 60s and 70s saw HUGE protests in the U.S. when women fought for equal rights, and made a lot of progress. And those protests were peaceful. The 60s and 70s were rife with protests that made a difference, and they were peaceful. The only violence came from “the man” as we called them back then, that tried to suppress us. The people ARE the governing body.
And what are you organizing instead?
This exact defeatist thinking is what led to all of this nonsense. Banding together gives people a sense of hope and community that gets lost when everyone is so isolated nowadays. These protests remind everyone that there’s a like-minded community around them that all support one another, and gives them the strength to do more than just protest. One person cannot do much to make change, but a collective community bandrd together can. Rolling over, going “protests don’t work, just give up” is actively harmful to a movement.
Nobody but you is saying “just give up” you’re mischarachterizing others by adding that on there.
Protests can work, but they work via disobedience, inflicting other harms to those with power and (most importantly) threatening violence if things do not change. Anything that doesn’t do all 3 of those things isn’t a protest, it’s a parade.
Parades can build community, but pretending parades are inherently some sort of engine of social progress is insane.
Yeah, we need a place to organize for the real stuff. Unfortunately they keep censoring things that “incite violence against property or encourage illegal activity” like sit-ins or sabotage. You aren’t going to win by playing by their rules. They keep making executive orders, and disappearing people, and nothing is being done to actually stop it.
It’s not for Trump’s benefit. It can help build momentum and encourage further action. It reminds people they are not alone. Action starts with getting off your ass, and organizing in the real world.
You’re right, but I’m not sure what you’re providing by saying that.
What are you providing by saying what you said?
"Peaceful protests have proved time and time again they do nothing”
And yet, during the 60s and 70s, peaceful protests made a huge difference. Honestly, who cares what Trump and MAGA care about? They are willing to strip people of their livelihoods, their retirements, their jobs, their health, their farms that generations of their family have worked. The richest country in the world has decided to discontinue funding to the most vulnerable people in their society… why?? Hungry children? Disabled veterans? The poor? The disadvantaged? How the fuck can you justify that?! How can people NOT protest?
I feel like there’s value in calling out shit behavior, personally.
So you’re saying I have shit behaviour because I said Trump and MAGA don’t care about people holding signs?
Do they matter though? Trump just golfed and doesn’t care about protesters
OK, one more time for the peeps in the back row. The PEOPLE are the governing body. When the PEOPLE “band together” (ArxCyberwolf) they can and will make a difference. Get out to the protests! It’s ok to share on social media, but don’t get sucked down in the social media whirlpool.
The people seem to have voted for Trump 🤷
Lol look at your downvotes.
If nothing else: it shows to the world that not all Americans support this administration. Makes it easier to heal relations with your allies if you’ll ever manage to get rid of him.
Those who ignore peaceful protests, ensure violent protests.
The message is clear, There are enough organized and angry people that taking state and national capitals is well within the possibility. The trump admin has two options here…yield, or break.
When I see a comment like this I just imagine you as a hillbilly saying the same shit as a republican if the tables were turned. It’s just as cringe.
When I see a comment like this I downvote it
When I post on lemmy I expect it
“Even I know I’ve got bad takes on current events.”
It’s actually: “I know what to expect from the average lemmy user.”
Yes, I believe that is what I paraphrased from your last comment.
I am a hillbilly republican, just one who thinks that LGBTQ+ people should be allowed to exist, that America should be a land of opportunity for everyone, and that the rich should pay taxes. Which in this world makes me a pretty far left Democrat.
The real cringe thing is seeing yourself as an ivory tower elite, above all the people fighting for their rights, casting judgment on the riffraff below you for quoting JFK.
They’re not talking to Trump. He’s too senile with Affluenza to care. They’re talking to their representatives, to business leaders, and Trump’s handlers.
And yes, it matters. The rich fear deeper than anything else the thought of us coming for them and killing them or taking their power. They hold retreats about it, for crying out loud. Any protest, even the ones that don’t seem to do much, make them very uncomfortable.
It reminds them that they don’t have as much control over people as they think.
Just ignore him. Looks like we’re getting some bad faith users now that the sub was plastered everywhere yesterday.
This place is literally for organizing and boosting these protests. That’s the whole point, the reason any of us are here. Like showing up at a church service and asking what’s the point of praying.
goes to aquarium
“hey everyone, fish suck, why would you waste your time here lol”
“I need you to calmly explain to me the merits of fish, after I blatantly disrespected the entire aquarium lovers community in their own community space.”
Then when you call them out: “I thought you fish people were supposed to be loving and tolerant! Why won’t anyone tell me why fish are so great?”
They really gotta get a new playbook.
I mean I wish they would just do this instead, at least that would be hilarious, what they are actually doing is pathetic and like you said the strategies never work anyways.
