It’s complicated because there are a variety of contributing factors and it’s not the same for every lonely man. There are some societal mores in certain demographics (e.g. urban Black men, traditional Hispanic men, traditional Southern White men) where men are expected to not talk about emotional pain or express it only in anger. They’re expected to solve all of their own problems and even complaining about a problem you’re struggling to solve makes you look weak to your peers. These kinds of societal forces cut men off from emotional support even when they have friends and makes them feel alone and abandoned even though they have people in their lives.

Then there’s stuff like boys/men getting addicted to video games and not socializing enough in person with people to create friendships groups outside of discord, that kind of thing. Like I said, it’s multifaceted. But it’s no joke and it’s not about misogyny.

Not the person you replied to.

That’s easy it’s not not wanting to come off as a creep. Where do you meet them? I have been told you cannot approach women in the bar, work, gym, through hobbies etc. Only place that is okay is dating apps and they are awful for so many reasons for everyone involved.

You don’t want to be creepy so you don’t approach people. Then you get people calling you creepy for being lonley.

Thanks for the link, interesting read( I read the transcript). A section here:

VOLPE: Yeah. Yeah. Like Harris said, it’s an easy solution. And you know, speaking of, like, some of these people, like Andrew Tate, like, their messages of, like, you know, you need to have women around you only to dominate them. And, like, those sort of messages, I think, are very appealing for men who feel like their place in the world is being threatened. And so it’s very easy to say, like, oh, yeah, like, maybe they just need a girlfriend or a friend and, like, they’ll be better.

And I think that maps neatly onto the way that we socialize boys and men, too, to sort of value that one romantic relationship, and, like, that is the thing…

This might be one of the reasons. But it is interesting that the survey says it is only 1% less of women than men feeling lonely. Would be interesting to know the country too. Not all societies are the same, and in some friendships between men are similar in connection like between 2 women.

It always reminds me of a This video

Yes, it’s because despite the problem being the same for everybody, the “treatment” has to be very different. So it’s better if you break it down into two different epidemics.

And one gets more attention because every single well known and applied procedure to fight the epidemics don’t work for them.

I just figure if you called women dishwashers you wouldn’t know big words like epidemic. That and it’s possible to be lonely without being sexist.

Also, I hear the 4th way more often than the other 3