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The american voters have really outdone themselves this time
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“You’ll never believe it, Mr Kennedy. According to our data, vaccines causes cancer”, he says, smiling. “Once we increased our vaccination rates, cancer became a major cause of death within 15 years. I suspect that far fewer people will die of cancer, if we simply roll our policies back
And we also discovered everyone who drinks water, has died some point in their life. We must take all the water from the people and give them to corporations so they can protect us.
Ban dihydromonooxide!
and dioxide gas.
“Name one person that died of cancer who never received a vaccine for anything. That’s what I thought!”
And more people will die of polio, measles, mumps, and other preventable diseases BEFORE they have the chance to die from cancer!
F cancer.
Not that way…
Next up, UFO conspiracists will determine if alien UFOs are real, Kennedy assassination conspiracists will review the Kennedy files.
I never thought I’d have a gov that had a health dept that was determined to make me sick. I expect things to be occasionally suppressed, bias, and flawed studies but not a deliberate effort. It is like they put the Phillip Morris tobacco company in charge.
I’d just like to caveat that a slim majority of American voters outdid themselves to undo decades of past hard-won progress.
a slim majority
Not even that. The majority of voters, 50.2%, voted for Harris or third party.
“Or third party”
I see the problem…
A two party system that uses first past the post?
Needs to change.
Yes. But until it does you play the game as it currently works.
I wouldn’t exactly define this current situation as working, would you?
What does “pretending we have a different system” get you?
Absolutely nothing… hence the It needs to change bit.
Realistically it’s the same question I could pose you saying just play the game… What exactly does picking the “lesser of two evils” net us? A race to the bottom. It’s not ideal nor does it work. The most recent election is a perfect example of this.
You vote for the best candidate?
There is no such thing as a “best candidate”.
The best candidate on the ballot, genius.
The only pathways are direct voter ballot initiativesmin the states that have them (only 26 states do) and progressive candidates and voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.
voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.
And this is how you have to do it in a two-party FPtP system.
That’s exactly how the Tea Party turned the GOP into the mess it is now.
And how many eligible voters didn’t bother to vote? They’re also equally responsible for this.
They didn’t technically vote for Trump. Which I don’t say to absolve them of blame, but this particular thread of comments was pedantry over how many people voted for Trump.
A third of eligible voters didn’t vote. The remaining people who did vote were almost evenly split. So, in rough numbers, 1/3rd of American voters put us all in this mess.
No, 2/3rds.
The third-ish that voted for Trump, and the third-ish that didn’t vote for Harris.
In other words, the majority of Americans either wanted this government, or didn’t care if this was the government.
Exactly one organization is to blame, the one that finally got Biden to step down long after it was clear he had no chance, just to replace him with someone who promises to change nothing.
The only reasonable explanation is that the Democrats threw the election on purpose. They very well know what it takes to motivate the voters and they did the exact opposite by putting Republicans on the campaign stage with Harris.
Oh piss off
I might, outside of the beef with Harris, that are kinda right. Dem advisors seem to have deliberately sunk the campaign once they took over and they seem to be pushing for another loss by moving even more right.
Here’s a simpler explanations: DNC is an umbrella party with many different factions. Sometimes they miscalculate, make mistakes, and are raked over coals for it.
Compare that with RNC. Their voters show up to vote for R no matter what RNC does.
It’s not DNC management’s duty to go left. It’s the duty of American leftists to push them left and withholding votes isn’t the way to do it.
Their voters show up to vote for R no matter what RNC does.
Exactly.
So, obviously, trying to appeal to them is at best a waste of time.
The threat to withhold our vote is the only leverage we have to effect change within the party. Of course I’m voing to use it.
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… then all they’re going to do is
embarrass themselves.get published in the lancet.FTFY.
The original study that said there might be a connection, was originally published in the lancet. It was later retracted, after years, but the damage was done.
which… the study looked at like a dozen autistic kids and found they had all gotten vaccines.
They all, also probably had all worn clothes. You don’t see people saying “clothes cause autism!”, though. Or you know, breathed air. Drank water. Played outside in the sunshine. I’m sure there’s more.
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That’s right, 5G towers have been causing problems for at least 30 years. BURN THEM
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Peer reviewed? Where are they going to find enough brainworm victims to be considered peers?
then all they’re going to do is embarrass themselves.
No, they’ll also set government policy that kills people.
They really should review dihydrogen monoxide which is continually pushed by doctors but has a 100% mortality rate! DO YOUR RESEARCH!
The leading cause of death is life!
This is why RFK only drinks methylated paint thinner.
Well that and he confused the methyl-part with methamphetamine.
Don’t do meth. Or methyl alcohol. Both are awful.
methylene blue to be exact, he has been seen in a video, of him using a large dropper of methylene blue on a flight into his drink. he bought into the unsubstantiated reports of it being useful.
Shit. That was supposed to be a joke.
Fuck me.
Doesn’t is turn your piss blue? Weirdo
Nah, that’s just a red herring, and completely discredited. The real problem is hydrogen hydroxide. Everywhere that you see dihydrogen monoxide, there’s also hydrogen hydroxide. That’s the real danger.
(/S for people that don’t know the different chemical names)
H2 would be explosive.
Goodness me. It’s so dangerous it eats away at untreated metal. How could they foist this dangerous mixture onto us. It’s worse than micro plastics. I heard estimates that claim it’s now found in every living American… and may even be now found in almost all of our food. Absolutely disgusting.
These people have co-opted the work “skeptic”.
I grew up Orthodox and became skeptical of god’s role in my life, now I’m agnostic.
My parents became “skeptical” of vaccines. Once they found their first antivax substack they are no longer “skeptical” but rather certain vaccines cause autism and covid vax causes heart attacks.
I find it hilarious (sad) they stop being skeptical once they find “proof” of their suspicions and then claim to be skeptics.
They of course have seen all the research supporting vaccines and deemed it insubmissable because it was funded by big pharma or the WHO (CHINA).
The only science they believe is the shit pushed by their “independent” researchers (crunchy influencers).
🤮
Don’t worry, Republicans have been hard at work destroying our public education system so that people in the future won’t be burdened with seeing and understanding their parents’ hypocrisy for what it is.
When you’re agnostic you’re just a closet atheist. It’s not that atheists are sure there is no god, we’re not, nobody can say that for sure. We can (and do) say, however, that you don’t have to worry about made up fairy tale rules, there likely isn’t a god. Just be a nice person and you’ll be fine.
This is not true at all. That is why agnostic and atheist are two separate words with two separate meanings. I agree with the be a nice person part though.
I’m agnostic. Definitely not a closet atheist. I actually talk about God with my closest and most catholic friend regularly
So do I, what’s your point?
If you say that you believe in God, then you’re not agnostic. If you don’t believe in God, you’re an atheist. Atheist, agnostic, in practice it’s the exact same thing
If I were an atheist then I would say there is no God, no afterlife, no soul, none of that.
I am agnostic because I haven’t seen evidence that I should rule it out nor accept it as gospel. Pun slightly intended.
It’s again the same thing. Could there be a soul? It hasn’t been proven either way so yeah, it’s possible, but in all likelihood it’s just bogus.
Either way, atheists and agnostics say the exact same things, atheists are just clearer about the message
Again, my beliefs aren’t your beliefs.
I’m not an “Atheist in denial”, I am someone who doesn’t see significant evidence to rule out things humanity is incapable of understanding they may be similar in concept to God or a soul
I apologize if I made you feel like I was pushing something on you.
I’m merely trying to say that the teo are pretty much the same. I was like you, calling myself agnostic until I read this line “agnostics are just closet atheists” and that rung a bell with me.
My beliefs didn’t change, I just call myself atheist now.
agnostic arnt aethiest thought.
I think we can be for sure, religious skeptic is an equally ridiculous term. It’s like saying I’m a teacup-around-Saturn skeptic. In any reasonable meaning of the word “certain”, “truth”, or “sure”, the teacup and any deity do not exist nor play any role in our lives. They deserve no consideration except for niche discussions in philosophy and epistemology. We should use the teacup example even in that case, not the deity one.
I used to call myself an atheist but switched to agnostic since I don’t know for certain. My agnostic belief in a higher power is NOT the judgemental rule writing god of scripture. More of a default reason for enexplainable things in our universe. As science progresses there are less things where the higher power is needed.
But that’s just me.
I always told my parents when they were disappointed in me for ditching the “Faith”: I may be a bad Jew but I make every effort to be a good person.
All of the agnostics I know openly identity as atheists, too.
Atheist moment
Headline later…
90% of people with autism were vaccinated! Vaccines cause autism!
Actual data later
90% of the population is vaccinated. The rate of autism in the 90% and remaining unvaccinated 10% is exactly the same.
I feel like using terms like “vaccine skeptic” for these morons is a major PR win for them. It makes it sound way more legitimate than it is. Fuck corporate media sanewashing everything going on politically right now.
We know what contributes a lot to developing autism. It’s pollution, more specifically small particle matter found in for example car exhaust. The same cars for which they’re now killing the environmental regulations.
Being skeptic is not bad. Not seek nor relay on scientific evidences is the problem…
If the word “skeptic” in the title actually meant that, this would be a good thing. It’s good to be skeptic about everything until you’re shown evidence. The problem here is that those folks aren’t really skeptic.
Hard to accept a “skeptic” in a field with overwhelming evidence that he’s wrong. It means he either doesn’t or refuses to understand the current data which makes him just a dummy not a skeptic
That’s quite literally what op said
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“LET’S FIGURE OUT AND CURE AUTISM” they say as if a considerable amount of humanity’s greatest inventions/discoveries aren’t accredited to people across the spectrum.
There’s no such thing as a “vaccine skeptic”.
Skeptic implies that they could have their opinion swayed if presented with evidence. The fact that they’re still “skeptical” despite literal mountains of evidence shows that they only call themselves “skeptics” because it makes them sound reasonable, when in reality if they could have been swayed by reason they would have changed their minds a long time ago.Any paper showing Vaccines don’t cause Autism is immediately disregarded as “propaganda from the far left”
they try to downplay anti-vaxxers, thats what they really are, this include vaccine hesitency.
