Even if the tariffs were to be reversed tomorrow, one wine business leader said, it’ll take "at least a year, if not longer, for my industry to recover.”
Canada’s break from American-made wine and the Trump administration’s global tariffs have compounded the struggles of the United States’ already-stressed wine industry to the point that it may be difficult for much of it “to come back from,” an American wine organization leader told NBC News.
“Canada is the single most important export market for U.S. wines with retail sales in excess of $1.1 billion annually,” Robert Koch, the California Wine Institute’s president and CEO, said in a statement.
Last month Canada united to boycott American wines — taking all U.S.-made vino and alcohol off its liquor and wine store shelves and out of restaurants across the country — as an aggressive retaliatory response to Trump’s tariffs on its political ally north of the border.
Since nobody else will be buying wine or jack Daniels, and whatever other alcohol, I am guessing alcohol will become cheaper and alcoholism will be on the rise, the next few years.
Make Americans Alcoholics Again
Hey, just like Russia!
Good!
But I kept hearing that the US doesn’t need Canada?
The US would have a trade surplus with Canada if not for oil which Canada sells at below market rate, the US refines and then sells for 3x their purchase price.
If anything, Canada subsidizes the US.
some of the electricity too.
Even if it were still on the shelf, it’s not going to be bought.
And trump says “fuck you, I’m getting mine”.
“Aggressive response”, lol. Moron-in-chief is threatening to annex their country!
“We’re gonna invade and annex your country!”
“Well, we’re not gonna buy any more of your stuff, then!”
“Whoa, so aggressive!”
I want to know how they voted before I feel sorry for them. . . That being said, I did notice my usual brand of wine went up by $2 a bottle this month. Guess they are trying to make up for this mess.
Good. Alcohol is evil anyway.
As someone who vomits at a strong smell of alcohol and gets nauseous with any smell…
Fuckin wat
Alcohol is no more evil than table salt or the dirt beneath your feet.
Guess what! Everything you consume is slowly contributing to your ultimate fate.
If you want to pass on any consumption, cool. Good for you.
If you want to be a judgemental ass towards others, there’s the door. If it hits you in the ass on the way out, so be it.
eViL
Hope you don’t consume soy sauce.
what’s wrong with soy sauce
It has alcohol in it, so religious fundamentalists that say alcohol is evil and eat fried rice are being hypocritical. Same goes for a lot of products, alcohol is everywhere and helps add flavor to a lot of foods.
Unless the original commenter was referring to the negative societal impacts of excessive alcohol consumption and alcoholism, but they didn’t clarify.
I indeed rarely do, funnily enough, and haven’t owned it in my home for years!
And wine is famously only made in the USA.
Lol what a judgemental person
Huh? I don’t judge drug users; I judge the substance itself, which should be banned.
It’s not “drugs and alcohol”; it’s “drugs.” Anything else only means alarmingly successful marketing.
I’m not against mind-altering substances! If people need relaxation through a mind-altering substance, marijuana has consistently proven to be far healthier overall, since you can’t overdose on it and there is no hangover if used correctly. Alcohol, on the other hand…
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohols-effects-body
which should be banned.
We tried that. It didn’t go so well.
I’m more in favor of decriminalization. I would only react similarly to you for cocaine, meth, heroin, and PCP. Those are bad news.
I am pretty sick of its ubiquity. Like my friends can’t even hang out unless it’s somewhere that serves.
I don’t see votes but you’re probably downvoted to hell. People get real weird when you start criticising what they eat or drink.
Yes, people do get “weird” when you literally call them “evil”.
“I don’t like the way that drinking alcohol is seen as a neccessary component of socialising in our society.” <-- Completely reasonable statement, even as someone who drinks I agree wholeheartedly. North America in particular has a serious problem with a lack of third spaces that aren’t bars or other places that serve alcohol.
“Alcohol is evil” <-- Absolutely deranged thing to say, deserves to be down voted into oblivion. I cannot even begin to imagine what would possess someone to willingly share this thought with the universe.
I did not call people evil but the substance, and my stance has nothing to do with socializing (which is fine) but rather everything to do with the pain of drunk driving, abuse, addiction, permanent bodily harm, psychological scarring, and death that are all results of alcohol intake. Why play with fire? Let’s look at other drugs:
“According to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, alcohol causes 88,000 (62,000 men and 26,000 women) deaths every year. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism tells us alcohol shortened the lifespan of those 88,000 by 30 years. That makes alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the U.S. All other drugs combined cause approximately 30,000 deaths annually.” - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201601/which-is-more-dangerous-alcohol-or-drugs
I don’t even understand why I’m conducting this research right now; why are you disagreeing? Arguing against science is like saying the damage from leaded gasoline was all fine. That article was from 2016, so let’s find something more recent for relevance:
“A new study estimates that over their lifetime, more than a third of U.S. adults or 113 million people are harmed from someone else’s drinking while 46 million experience harms from someone else’s drug use. Among study respondents, 34.2% experienced secondhand harms from alcohol, 5.5% from cannabis, 7.6% from opioids, and 8.3% from other drugs.” - https://www.phi.org/press/new-study-alcohol-and-drug-use-cause-significant-harms-that-go-beyond-the-individual/
That was just from Nov. 2024. I hope I don’t have to go on. There are so many incredible and safer ways to have fun (and even ones that are as wild or wilder, when it comes to certain mind-altering substances). /c/stopdrinking exists for a reason, and I’m not gonna minimize their struggle in light of those ratios above.
To be fair, that entire industry, wines about everything.
:rimshot:
Let me salt it first before you lick it.
Might wanna google that word
I live in Australia and the local winery is owned by a Californian company that sends all their output exclusively to the US domestic market. It would be such a shame if those US companies fucked off and profits went back into the local economy.
Come for us and we won’t go easily like your citizens.
Last month Canada united to boycott American wines — taking all U.S.-made vino and alcohol off its liquor and wine store shelves and out of restaurants across the country — as an aggressive retaliatory response to Trump’s tariffs on its political ally north of the border.
Not a single mention about the threats of economic strangulation and annexation.
Dear American cousins, tarrifs, while backstabbing the best ally anyone has ever had, are your perogative. Your country, your borders, your rules. Sure we will stand up for ourselves and counter tarrif, but that is just business.
Threatening annexation is what has caused for many a lifelong change. The interviewee who said that “even if everything returned to normal tomorrow, it would take a year to recover” missed the point badly. Canadians are a friendly bunch, but once burned like this will never set foot in you country again for a lifetime and will make the consumer boycot for life. I am one of them.
Even if trump is gone, the dems sweep and get universal healthcare, and become a shiny happy prosperous place, I am done with America. I don’t deal with backstabbers. There may be a time when our countries can heal and reconcile. I will be dead before that time comes. This is generational fuckery and America will reap what it sows.
I get your sentiment, but aren’t you just being a tad bit melodramatic? Lol.
More than 2/3rds of Canadians no longer see the US as an ally.
Scott Galloway recently asked Mark Carney (current prime minister of Canada) about this on his podcast.
The simple answer is you don’t get to threaten another country’s sovereignty and expect it not to be taken seriously.
UK person here, and I totally agree with the Canadian above.
America could’ve learned its lessons about tRUMP well before he was voted in in 2016, all they had to do was open their eyes, not be fucking idiots, and do a tiny bit of research about his bullshit (criminal, and otherwise) that he’s been pulling for literally, not figuratively, literally decades and decades. No, that was asking too much of them apparently. So instead they voted him in.
Then they could’ve learned their lesson during his first term and locked him up for all his criminal and traitorous bullshit that he pulled. No, instead they dragged their feet over that shit AND THEN voted him in for a second term.The USA, just like Germany had to do with shitler, needs to learn the hard way. And for decades to come. The American people obviously don’t learn when others are showing them nicely just how blatantly stupid they are being.
And the only way for them to learn is by ostracising and boycotting their products and country for decades to come.No. Perfectly and absolutely serious.
No. I assume you’re American?
Perhaps you could set foot in this country again to burn down the White House for old time’s sake?
Not interested. Unless you make us.
Damn. Fucking. Right. Bud.
As an American, I’m sorry, but good. Every single country needs to stand up to the idiots that enabled the fascists to take over our country. We need to feel pain before we learn it seems.
I see this as an absolute win for freedom & democracy.
Farmers are currently in the “Finding Out” stage unfortunately. They were warned.
Although the overwhelming majority of American wine comes from the three deep blue west coast states, so probably not these farmers in particular.
That’s a lot of Red for a deep blue state.
Turns out, people vote, not land
39% Trump is a lot of fascists.
Good thing land doesn’t vote lol
Farmers tend to be right wing, and often exist as Republican counties in Democratic states. So probably also these farmers.
Sorry America, but your administration has decided you need to suffer. You should do something about that.
Until then, borders closed. We aren’t visiting or buying your crap.
Thank you for that, seriously.
Your external pressure helps encourage more people to rise up. I’ve seen a ton of Canadian flags at the 50501 protests. We stand in solidarity against this madness.
i do not think the administration has too much to do with that. it is american people. it is not even the maga people alone. it is the americans. it doesnt matter anymore if they vote their pseudo democrats any time in the future. they have proven to be total assholes again and again.
Sad because California has started to make a few decent wines.
Hardly. Overpriced and mediocre
Thanks for your opinion. Very helpful.
Been to Napa Valley, not impressed at all. Unless you like dry wines that taste like a bleached chesterfield. Okanagan wine is a hundred times better
Okay.
What about #Arkansas wine from Altus ?
(Sorry, gotta represent my home state, even if our government sucks.)
Could be worse, you could be from Tennessee.
On most metrics Tennessee is better than Arkansas. Are you referencing any particular defect in Teneessee? I’ve only spent a little time there; a weekend trip over the river to Memphis.
EDIT: Oh, I’m an idiot. Jack Daniel’s. Yeah, that economy is going to take a serious hit from CA and EU deciding they don’t want that product.
National Parks too.
I partly grew up in Tennessee.
If I had a house in Tennessee and an apartment in hell, I’d rent the house and live in hell.
But hey, I’m brown, and the people were monsters.
I dunno. Is it good? How’s that climate good for wine?
I’m not a wine fan, but I didn’t think it was particularly good or bad.
They have a microclimate there that is different than either where I grew up, or where I lived for most of my life. And, seeing as there are multiple vineyards, I’m guessing yes? It’s cooler than I’m used to due to the shade and general hilly-ness. If you want to “buy American”, they are definitely worth a try.
Alright. I wonder if I can find it in my area, which is East coast
